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At best, this make it looks like sama is talking without considering his words carefully. At worst, it confirms many people's fears of how those in Silicon Val

by bqe 10y ago

At best, this make it looks like sama is talking without considering his words carefully. At worst, it confirms many people's fears of how those in Silicon Valley view the world.

tptacek 10y ago
I've twice had the pleasure of fundraising in pre-YC SFBA. I admire and respect what Paul and Sam built. I viscerally appreciate it. But stuff like this makes YC extraordinarily difficult to defend. Not worth defending. It's table-flip upsetting.
- Danihan 10y ago
  Or perhaps that sort of visceral distaste towards anything conservative is just super biased.
  - tptacek 10y ago
    Against Donald Trump? The word "super" doesn't capture it. But don't just look at me. Before the election, Paul Graham said that if Trump won, he would join the resistance. (You misleadingly edited your comment after I wrote my response. I would not agree that I have a visceral distaste of anything conservative. In fact, I think that's an accusation more accurately leveled against Donald Trump.)
    - Danihan 10y ago
      And that was an absurd, emotion-driven and wrong-headed statement. What resistance is he joining exactly.
      - tptacek 10y ago
        You and me, we're wondering the same thing right now.
  - PhasmaFelis 10y ago
    You don't need a "visceral distaste towards anything conservative" to have issues with a president who gets his political news from a guy who literally thinks that alien lizards control the world. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-news-source-alien-lizards-fluoride-mind-control-and-voter-fraud/2016/11/28/c0326c26-b5a0-11e6-b8df-600bd9d38a02_story.html?utm_term=.fcc01b428d76 https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-news-source-a...
- Gargoyle 10y ago
  >It's table-flip upsetting. Then it might be a good idea to cool down before engaging in comment. Sam is providing a different perspective for looking at Trump's presidency, which he's made it clear he's not happy with. That to me is an incredibly admirable action, and one which we could all benefit from trying out a little more often. Doesn't mean anyone is endorsing anything. It's just a different look.
  - dragonwriter 10y ago
    > Sam is providing a different perspective for looking at Trump's presidency, which he's made it clear he's not happy with. Those quotes might be reasonable on the context of an essay by Sam aimed at providing a "different perspective on Trump's presidency" (though Sam's own comments here suggest to that they wouldn't be much better in that context, but that's another discussion.) In the actual context they appear, they are normalizing of Trump a d suggest, at best, an extraordinarily naive approach to the media in his position.
- nnnnnnnnn 10y ago
  Thomas, you're not an idiot. Please realize they've never been worth defending, and always been like this. Gut feelings are not always the best feelings.
MegaButts 10y ago
He also talked quite openly in a piece for The New Yorker (1). While many people I know in the Bay Area thought "wow that's neat!" when I spoke to siblings and friends from other parts of the country, one person's exact response was "what the fuck is wrong with that person?" It was a long piece, but there was enough there where people could find things to like and dislike about him and Y Combinator in general. Sometimes I think people in Silicon Valley aren't aware of the microcosm they live in. 1. http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/10/sam-altmans-manifest-destiny http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/10/sam-altmans-man...

by bqe 10y ago

At best, this make it looks like sama is talking without considering his words carefully. At worst, it confirms many people's fears of how those in Silicon Valley view the world.

tptacek 10y ago

I've twice had the pleasure of fundraising in pre-YC SFBA. I admire and respect what Paul and Sam built. I viscerally appreciate it. But stuff like this makes YC extraordinarily difficult to defend. Not worth defending. It's table-flip upsetting.

Danihan 10y ago
Or perhaps that sort of visceral distaste towards anything conservative is just super biased.
- tptacek 10y ago
  Against Donald Trump? The word "super" doesn't capture it. But don't just look at me. Before the election, Paul Graham said that if Trump won, he would join the resistance. (You misleadingly edited your comment after I wrote my response. I would not agree that I have a visceral distaste of anything conservative. In fact, I think that's an accusation more accurately leveled against Donald Trump.)
  - Danihan 10y ago
    And that was an absurd, emotion-driven and wrong-headed statement. What resistance is he joining exactly.
    - tptacek 10y ago
      You and me, we're wondering the same thing right now.
- PhasmaFelis 10y ago
  You don't need a "visceral distaste towards anything conservative" to have issues with a president who gets his political news from a guy who literally thinks that alien lizards control the world. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-news-source-alien-lizards-fluoride-mind-control-and-voter-fraud/2016/11/28/c0326c26-b5a0-11e6-b8df-600bd9d38a02_story.html?utm_term=.fcc01b428d76 https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-news-source-a...
Gargoyle 10y ago
>It's table-flip upsetting. Then it might be a good idea to cool down before engaging in comment. Sam is providing a different perspective for looking at Trump's presidency, which he's made it clear he's not happy with. That to me is an incredibly admirable action, and one which we could all benefit from trying out a little more often. Doesn't mean anyone is endorsing anything. It's just a different look.
- dragonwriter 10y ago
  > Sam is providing a different perspective for looking at Trump's presidency, which he's made it clear he's not happy with. Those quotes might be reasonable on the context of an essay by Sam aimed at providing a "different perspective on Trump's presidency" (though Sam's own comments here suggest to that they wouldn't be much better in that context, but that's another discussion.) In the actual context they appear, they are normalizing of Trump a d suggest, at best, an extraordinarily naive approach to the media in his position.
nnnnnnnnn 10y ago
Thomas, you're not an idiot. Please realize they've never been worth defending, and always been like this. Gut feelings are not always the best feelings.

MegaButts 10y ago

He also talked quite openly in a piece for The New Yorker (1). While many people I know in the Bay Area thought "wow that's neat!" when I spoke to siblings and friends from other parts of the country, one person's exact response was "what the fuck is wrong with that person?" It was a long piece, but there was enough there where people could find things to like and dislike about him and Y Combinator in general. Sometimes I think people in Silicon Valley aren't aware of the microcosm they live in. 1. http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/10/sam-altmans-manifest-destiny http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/10/sam-altmans-man...