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You're obviously in the tiny tiny minority if your commute is 2 minutes. Surely you can understand why many people who have longer commutes and longer work days

by ghobs91 10y ago

You're obviously in the tiny tiny minority if your commute is 2 minutes. Surely you can understand why many people who have longer commutes and longer work days wouldn't want to spend more time/effort grocery shopping, when they could be doing something more pleasurable?

overcast 10y ago
Actually what I was getting at, is people don't seem to mind accepting jobs with two hour commutes, but going to the grocery store once a week is out of the question. But I see your point.
- ghobs91 10y ago
  Ah I see. Unfortunately they don't always have a choice when it comes to those commutes. Living near business districs can be cost prohibitive.
- JumpCrisscross 10y ago
  > people don't seem to mind accepting jobs with two hour commutes, but going to the grocery store once a week is out of the question Playing devil's advocate, the all-in cost of a short commute is likely higher than that for grocery delivery. Let's compare a White Plains, NY <--> Midtown Manhattan commute to an Instacart delivery. That commute takes about 1 hour [1]. The average 1-bedroom in White Plains goes for about $2,270 a month [2]. In my neighborhood, Flatiron, it goes for $5,660 [3]. Let's assume 260 working days in a year [4], i.e. 520 [5] hours of commute. That $3,390 difference in monthly rent comes out to $40,700 a year, or $78.30 per hour of commute. By coïncidence, that's what this guy on Reddit [6] estimated Instacart's markup to be. You'd have to order $87 in groceries (i.e. $150 on Instacart) twice a day every working day to come out even against a 2-hour-a-day commute between White Plains and Midtown. [1] https://www.google.com/maps/dir/White+Plains,+New+York/Grand+Central+Terminal,+East+42nd+Street,+New+York,+NY/@40.8932715,-74.0101538,11z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x89c29422e2a335d9:0x541404101a5bfc6c!2m2!1d-73.7629097!2d41.0339862!1m5!1m1!1s0x89c25a21fb011c85:0x37513b7f1821408b!2m2!1d-73.9772294!2d40.7527262!3e3 https://www.google.com/maps/dir/White+Plains,+New+York/Grand... [2] http://www.apartmentguide.com/apartments/New-York/White-Plains/0-beds-1z141wj/ http://www.apartmentguide.com/apartments/New-York/White-Plai... [3] http://www.apartmentguide.com/zip/10010-Apartments-For-Rent/0-beds-1z141wj/ http://www.apartmentguide.com/zip/10010-Apartments-For-Rent/... [4] http://www.answers.com/Q/How_many_work_days_are_in_a_year http://www.answers.com/Q/How_many_work_days_are_in_a_year [5] 260 * 2 [6] https://np.reddit.com/r/boston/comments/5xj47l/ever_what_instacart_is_really_charging_you_in/ https://np.reddit.com/r/boston/comments/5xj47l/ever_what_ins...
- Kiro 10y ago
  I much rather commute than go to the store. I absolutely hate it.

by ghobs91 10y ago

overcast 10y ago

Actually what I was getting at, is people don't seem to mind accepting jobs with two hour commutes, but going to the grocery store once a week is out of the question. But I see your point.

ghobs91 10y ago
Ah I see. Unfortunately they don't always have a choice when it comes to those commutes. Living near business districs can be cost prohibitive.
JumpCrisscross 10y ago
> people don't seem to mind accepting jobs with two hour commutes, but going to the grocery store once a week is out of the question Playing devil's advocate, the all-in cost of a short commute is likely higher than that for grocery delivery. Let's compare a White Plains, NY <--> Midtown Manhattan commute to an Instacart delivery. That commute takes about 1 hour [1]. The average 1-bedroom in White Plains goes for about $2,270 a month [2]. In my neighborhood, Flatiron, it goes for $5,660 [3]. Let's assume 260 working days in a year [4], i.e. 520 [5] hours of commute. That $3,390 difference in monthly rent comes out to $40,700 a year, or $78.30 per hour of commute. By coïncidence, that's what this guy on Reddit [6] estimated Instacart's markup to be. You'd have to order $87 in groceries (i.e. $150 on Instacart) twice a day every working day to come out even against a 2-hour-a-day commute between White Plains and Midtown. [1] https://www.google.com/maps/dir/White+Plains,+New+York/Grand+Central+Terminal,+East+42nd+Street,+New+York,+NY/@40.8932715,-74.0101538,11z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x89c29422e2a335d9:0x541404101a5bfc6c!2m2!1d-73.7629097!2d41.0339862!1m5!1m1!1s0x89c25a21fb011c85:0x37513b7f1821408b!2m2!1d-73.9772294!2d40.7527262!3e3 https://www.google.com/maps/dir/White+Plains,+New+York/Grand... [2] http://www.apartmentguide.com/apartments/New-York/White-Plains/0-beds-1z141wj/ http://www.apartmentguide.com/apartments/New-York/White-Plai... [3] http://www.apartmentguide.com/zip/10010-Apartments-For-Rent/0-beds-1z141wj/ http://www.apartmentguide.com/zip/10010-Apartments-For-Rent/... [4] http://www.answers.com/Q/How_many_work_days_are_in_a_year http://www.answers.com/Q/How_many_work_days_are_in_a_year [5] 260 * 2 [6] https://np.reddit.com/r/boston/comments/5xj47l/ever_what_instacart_is_really_charging_you_in/ https://np.reddit.com/r/boston/comments/5xj47l/ever_what_ins...
Kiro 10y ago
I much rather commute than go to the store. I absolutely hate it.