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For what? Microsoft is not really a dominant force in the server space.

by robert_foss 10y ago

deelowe 10y ago
MS is one of the major players in open compute and in the top three for cloud services.
shliachtx 10y ago
Azure is one of the big three in cloud computing - Google, Amazon, and Microsoft
- tyingq 10y ago
  And they also run some pretty large things that could be run on ARM with no visible impact to customers. Bing, hosted Outlook, etc.
- robert_foss 10y ago
  Sure, but it is a single cloud. Will you ever be able to buy these products? And would you ever want to? Windows Server 20XX on ARMv8 will forever remain a niche platform at best.
  - deelowe 10y ago
    > Sure, but it is a single cloud. Not sure what that means. Arguably, the cloud computing business is what's driving high performance computing at this point. Go look at the benchmarks for Ryzen, for example. It's pretty clear who AMD is targeting with that architecture (hint: games aren't in desperate need of better multi-core performance). > Will you ever be able to buy these products? And would you ever want to? Windows Server 20XX on ARMv8 will forever remain a niche platform at best. Did you read the article? This is about MS supporting ARM in their cloud offerings (and porting windows to do so). Whether or not consumers will purchase these solutions seems irrelevant in this context.
  - sp332 10y ago
    Their new datacenter is a mile long. It would be profitable to sell chips just for the one datacenter.
mikeash 10y ago
They are quite large in the server space: http://map.buildazure.com http://map.buildazure.com
melling 10y ago
According to the article: "its Azure service is No. 2 in cloud infrastructure behind Amazon, and it's one of the biggest server buyers" You don't have to be "dominant" to have influence.
drzaiusapelord 10y ago
Most of the world you take for granted runs on Azure. I don't mean by numbers, but by importance. Big enterprise loves it. AWS is technically bigger but its mostly for web technologies. Many companies run on some level of Azure or O365. Its insane how big MS is in this space and how quietly because they don't get the big headlines due to Windows server space being 'boring enterprise stuff.'

For what? Microsoft is not really a dominant force in the server space.

deelowe 10y ago

MS is one of the major players in open compute and in the top three for cloud services.

shliachtx 10y ago

Azure is one of the big three in cloud computing - Google, Amazon, and Microsoft

tyingq 10y ago
And they also run some pretty large things that could be run on ARM with no visible impact to customers. Bing, hosted Outlook, etc.
robert_foss 10y ago
Sure, but it is a single cloud. Will you ever be able to buy these products? And would you ever want to? Windows Server 20XX on ARMv8 will forever remain a niche platform at best.
- deelowe 10y ago
  > Sure, but it is a single cloud. Not sure what that means. Arguably, the cloud computing business is what's driving high performance computing at this point. Go look at the benchmarks for Ryzen, for example. It's pretty clear who AMD is targeting with that architecture (hint: games aren't in desperate need of better multi-core performance). > Will you ever be able to buy these products? And would you ever want to? Windows Server 20XX on ARMv8 will forever remain a niche platform at best. Did you read the article? This is about MS supporting ARM in their cloud offerings (and porting windows to do so). Whether or not consumers will purchase these solutions seems irrelevant in this context.
- sp332 10y ago
  Their new datacenter is a mile long. It would be profitable to sell chips just for the one datacenter.

mikeash 10y ago

They are quite large in the server space: http://map.buildazure.com http://map.buildazure.com

melling 10y ago

According to the article: "its Azure service is No. 2 in cloud infrastructure behind Amazon, and it's one of the biggest server buyers" You don't have to be "dominant" to have influence.

drzaiusapelord 10y ago

Most of the world you take for granted runs on Azure. I don't mean by numbers, but by importance. Big enterprise loves it. AWS is technically bigger but its mostly for web technologies. Many companies run on some level of Azure or O365. Its insane how big MS is in this space and how quietly because they don't get the big headlines due to Windows server space being 'boring enterprise stuff.'