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there is absolutely an oligarchy. See 1, 2, and 3. if you think they arent organizing to protect their interests and expand their political influence, that hon

by gr3yh47 10y ago

there is absolutely an oligarchy. See 1, 2, and 3. if you think they arent organizing to protect their interests and expand their political influence, that honestly comes across as naive with the information available today. [1] http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--Tb_z5Fcz--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/lckoza8wfctpe7k9k1de.jpg http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--Tb_z5Fcz... [2] http://cds.y5f6s2q6.hwcdn.net/25541/sx2xsdjns30fwy0557v4.jpeg http://cds.y5f6s2q6.hwcdn.net/25541/sx2xsdjns30fwy0557v4.jpe... [3] http://www.yellowstonepartners.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/bank_chart.jpg http://www.yellowstonepartners.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/0...

newswriter99 10y ago
You uploaded a few random pictures (also Gawker? Seriously?) of the different divisions of companies, and you think this in irrefutable proof of an organized conspiracy to go all "1984" on the internet? Real life isn't a movie. Move on.
- wu-ikkyu 10y ago
  Ad hominem and straw man attacks are very weak forms of counterargument.
  - maxerickson 10y ago
    Are you calling the claim that big brands are an oligopoly a straw man?
    - wu-ikkyu 10y ago
      No, I think you may have mistaken which comment was the parent to my comment. Straw man: >irrefutable proof of an organized conspiracy to go all "1984" on the internet? Real life isn't a movie.
  - soundwave106 10y ago
    I personally agree that media concentration is a problem, but those pictures honestly aren't the best argument for this thread. A) The only media concentration chart depicted was largely centered on television-heavy media conglomerates... so no mention of newspaper-heavy conglomerates like Gannett and McClatchy. Food and banking are not quite related to this discussion. B) The television-heavy media conglomerates depicted were very United States-centric. So no mention of (as an example) Bertelsmann. (Internationally, you'll also find many state-sponsored media outlets... not sure how those should be represented here). One other counterpoint: there is a bit of a trend towards greater ownership diversity (of a sort) in the newspaper market, at least in the United States. Individual businessmen have snapped up several papers in the last few years (http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/columnist/rieder/2013/08/06/a-major-shift-in-who-owns-newspapers/2623293/ http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/columnist/rieder/2013/08...), ala Bezos famously buying the Washington Post.
- jnordwick 10y ago
  If you'll look at the chart closely you'll notice that NBC controls the Weather Channel. Shocking.
  - maxerickson 10y ago
    They could punch it up a level and swap in Comcast, which now owns NBC (and subsidiaries).

by gr3yh47 10y ago

newswriter99 10y ago

You uploaded a few random pictures (also Gawker? Seriously?) of the different divisions of companies, and you think this in irrefutable proof of an organized conspiracy to go all "1984" on the internet? Real life isn't a movie. Move on.

wu-ikkyu 10y ago
Ad hominem and straw man attacks are very weak forms of counterargument.
- maxerickson 10y ago
  Are you calling the claim that big brands are an oligopoly a straw man?
  - wu-ikkyu 10y ago
    No, I think you may have mistaken which comment was the parent to my comment. Straw man: >irrefutable proof of an organized conspiracy to go all "1984" on the internet? Real life isn't a movie.
- soundwave106 10y ago
  I personally agree that media concentration is a problem, but those pictures honestly aren't the best argument for this thread. A) The only media concentration chart depicted was largely centered on television-heavy media conglomerates... so no mention of newspaper-heavy conglomerates like Gannett and McClatchy. Food and banking are not quite related to this discussion. B) The television-heavy media conglomerates depicted were very United States-centric. So no mention of (as an example) Bertelsmann. (Internationally, you'll also find many state-sponsored media outlets... not sure how those should be represented here). One other counterpoint: there is a bit of a trend towards greater ownership diversity (of a sort) in the newspaper market, at least in the United States. Individual businessmen have snapped up several papers in the last few years (http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/columnist/rieder/2013/08/06/a-major-shift-in-who-owns-newspapers/2623293/ http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/columnist/rieder/2013/08...), ala Bezos famously buying the Washington Post.
jnordwick 10y ago
If you'll look at the chart closely you'll notice that NBC controls the Weather Channel. Shocking.
- maxerickson 10y ago
  They could punch it up a level and swap in Comcast, which now owns NBC (and subsidiaries).