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> you just start working with a guy, giving him basic isolated tasks, and as he successfully progresses with his work, task are getting more and more complicate

> you just start working with a guy, giving him basic isolated tasks, and as he successfully progresses with his work, task are getting more and more complicated (salary, permissions as well). After few months of such freelance-ish work you can know for sure that this dude is compatible with the team, able to solve problems, able to learn. And only then he becomes an employee with offer, benefits and SO. Careful not to presume or disseminate the idea that all candidates/hires are men.

cyphar 10y ago
Would you have made the same comment if GP had qualified everything with "she"? Also, many European languages have gendered grammar, which means that it is hard for English second-speakers to speak about someone in a gender-neutral way (for example, it would not be syntactically possible to create such sentences in Slavic languages).
ar15saveslives 10y ago
Are you triggered?
- Frondo 10y ago
  It's an interesting thought experiment, if the original poster had qualified every statement in a different way... "you just start working with a white person, giving the white person basic isolated tasks, and as the white person successfully progresses with their work, task are getting more and more complicated (salary, permissions as well). After few months of such freelance-ish work you can know for sure that this white person is compatible with the team, able to solve problems, able to learn. And only then the white person becomes an employee with offer, benefits and SO." Now, I'd like to declare right up front I don't think the original poster was trying to exclude women. I think the original poster just wasn't thinking about their writing at all. I think that's all the parent post was getting at--people should think more when they write, and make sure they think about what they're saying.
  - ar15saveslives 10y ago
    Music, sweet music.
    - rhizome 10y ago
      What's it like, always needing people to know how much you like guns?
  - flukus 10y ago
    > people should think more when they write, and make sure they think about what they're saying Maybe you should just stop overthinking what they wrote.
    - Frondo 10y ago
      How is this overthinking? They used heavily gendered language, someone pushed back, and I backed the person who pushed back. You're probably a dude, too, huh, so reading he/his/him all the time doesn't phase you. Oh well. Keep goin', bro.
      - flukus 10y ago
        > How is this overthinking? Because it's based on the assumption that gendered language is unwelcome in the first place. But continue if you like, the more normal people that see how ridiculous modern feminism has become the better, they'll take it less seriously.
      - ar15saveslives 10y ago
        I feel sorry for your illness, really. "Bad english - fine, controversial hiring practices - fine, but he's using 'heavily gendered language' - alarm, take your pitchforks!" Today's International Women's Day, so here's my gift for you: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/unbias-the-internet/njcdabcgjmpoedeoloccmpnejapkcjci?hl=en-US https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/unbias-the-interne...
ManlyBread 10y ago
No one cares.

cyphar 10y ago

Would you have made the same comment if GP had qualified everything with "she"? Also, many European languages have gendered grammar, which means that it is hard for English second-speakers to speak about someone in a gender-neutral way (for example, it would not be syntactically possible to create such sentences in Slavic languages).

ar15saveslives 10y ago

Are you triggered?

Frondo 10y ago
It's an interesting thought experiment, if the original poster had qualified every statement in a different way... "you just start working with a white person, giving the white person basic isolated tasks, and as the white person successfully progresses with their work, task are getting more and more complicated (salary, permissions as well). After few months of such freelance-ish work you can know for sure that this white person is compatible with the team, able to solve problems, able to learn. And only then the white person becomes an employee with offer, benefits and SO." Now, I'd like to declare right up front I don't think the original poster was trying to exclude women. I think the original poster just wasn't thinking about their writing at all. I think that's all the parent post was getting at--people should think more when they write, and make sure they think about what they're saying.
- ar15saveslives 10y ago
  Music, sweet music.
  - rhizome 10y ago
    What's it like, always needing people to know how much you like guns?
- flukus 10y ago
  > people should think more when they write, and make sure they think about what they're saying Maybe you should just stop overthinking what they wrote.
  - Frondo 10y ago
    How is this overthinking? They used heavily gendered language, someone pushed back, and I backed the person who pushed back. You're probably a dude, too, huh, so reading he/his/him all the time doesn't phase you. Oh well. Keep goin', bro.
    - flukus 10y ago
      > How is this overthinking? Because it's based on the assumption that gendered language is unwelcome in the first place. But continue if you like, the more normal people that see how ridiculous modern feminism has become the better, they'll take it less seriously.
    - ar15saveslives 10y ago
      I feel sorry for your illness, really. "Bad english - fine, controversial hiring practices - fine, but he's using 'heavily gendered language' - alarm, take your pitchforks!" Today's International Women's Day, so here's my gift for you: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/unbias-the-internet/njcdabcgjmpoedeoloccmpnejapkcjci?hl=en-US https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/unbias-the-interne...

ManlyBread 10y ago

No one cares.