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>You mean, selfish like everyone else is? Nope: everyone else gets vaccines, they are clearly more selfish in this regard

by zimzam 10y ago

BeetleB 10y ago
>Nope: everyone else gets vaccines, they are clearly more selfish in this regard From their perspective, they are not getting a benefit. How are they selfish? Great of you to take one piece of my comment and ignore the main point of it.
- sqeaky 10y ago
  Perspectives can be wrong. They are gaining benefit. Ever wonder why non-urban menengitis outbreaks tend to happen in churches that preach some non-sense about vaccines being bad and not to groups that vaccinate?
  - BeetleB 10y ago
    >Perspectives can be wrong. Can you be selfish if you do not believe you are gaining something from it? From Webster: >concerned excessively or exclusively with oneself : seeking or concentrating on one's own advantage, pleasure, or well-being without regard for others They do not believe in vaccine's efficacy, so they are not concerned with themselves any more than others. >arising from concern with one's own welfare or advantage in disregard of others Same issue here. My question is not being answered: I gave an alternative phrasing that maintained the facts, but eliminated the word selfish. Why the need to add that label? Ultimately, it's not even whether they are selfish or not. In the debate, what useful information did that word add? If I want to increase vaccination rates, will that word help me?
    - sqeaky 10y ago
      I actively left the word selfish out of my post, and the wording really doesn't matter. I don't care what they believe or what they do don't deserve. All I care about is the results. They are gaining benefit with vaccines and are causing harm without. They are safe and effective. Other people's children die when enough people choose not to vaccinate. I still don't see a grey area, no amount of mincing words adds a grey area, this should be mandatory.

>You mean, selfish like everyone else is? Nope: everyone else gets vaccines, they are clearly more selfish in this regard

by zimzam 10y ago

>You mean, selfish like everyone else is? Nope: everyone else gets vaccines, they are clearly more selfish in this regard

BeetleB 10y ago

>Nope: everyone else gets vaccines, they are clearly more selfish in this regard From their perspective, they are not getting a benefit. How are they selfish? Great of you to take one piece of my comment and ignore the main point of it.

sqeaky 10y ago
Perspectives can be wrong. They are gaining benefit. Ever wonder why non-urban menengitis outbreaks tend to happen in churches that preach some non-sense about vaccines being bad and not to groups that vaccinate?
- BeetleB 10y ago
  >Perspectives can be wrong. Can you be selfish if you do not believe you are gaining something from it? From Webster: >concerned excessively or exclusively with oneself : seeking or concentrating on one's own advantage, pleasure, or well-being without regard for others They do not believe in vaccine's efficacy, so they are not concerned with themselves any more than others. >arising from concern with one's own welfare or advantage in disregard of others Same issue here. My question is not being answered: I gave an alternative phrasing that maintained the facts, but eliminated the word selfish. Why the need to add that label? Ultimately, it's not even whether they are selfish or not. In the debate, what useful information did that word add? If I want to increase vaccination rates, will that word help me?
  - sqeaky 10y ago
    I actively left the word selfish out of my post, and the wording really doesn't matter. I don't care what they believe or what they do don't deserve. All I care about is the results. They are gaining benefit with vaccines and are causing harm without. They are safe and effective. Other people's children die when enough people choose not to vaccinate. I still don't see a grey area, no amount of mincing words adds a grey area, this should be mandatory.