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UPS and Fedex pay New York millions in parking fines as a cost of doing business[1]. How come we don't really think of them as scofflaws, but we do with Uber? (

by trimbo 10y ago

UPS and Fedex pay New York millions in parking fines as a cost of doing business[1]. How come we don't really think of them as scofflaws, but we do with Uber? (I include myself when asking this question) [1] - http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20130526/ECONOMY/305269980/parking-tickets-all-in-the-cost-of-doing-business http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20130526/ECONOMY/305269...

tedunangst 10y ago
That happens a lot around here too. Actually, I know (by sight) both the UPS drivers and the parking enforcement people. The UPS drivers, at least that I can see, usually try to park somewhere slightly out of the way, so they're not blocking traffic or creating a dangerous diversion. Uber drivers generally seem to act like they're the only car on the road. That's more of a driver thing than a company thing, but culture comes from the top.
- cbhl 10y ago
  I feel like this behavior comes from the riders -- people give bad ratings if they don't get picked up exactly at their door, double parking be damned.
wrsh07 10y ago
That's an interesting thing: in basketball, fouls are part of the game and used in the last minutes to get the ball back In most other sports, doing that would be "breaking the rules." Not sure how such a division arises. (Maybe if the authorities make no attempt to "close" said loophole?)
- ghaff 10y ago
  In general, in sports there's something of a distinction between fouls that are simply a violation of a game's rules and fouls that also cause or at least risk injuries. The former are generally regarded to be just part of the game and, presumably, penalties are commensurate with the foul. It's not uncommon for "dirty" play to have consequences in addition to the foul called at the time. The basketball example is an interesting one. One assumes that if the league wanted to eliminate that type of play they'd change the rules to increase the penalty in some way by docking points or whatever.
bogomipz 10y ago
Wouldn't a "scofflaw" be someone who got a ticket and did not pay it? Also parking citations are civil offenses not criminal ones. Most cities are actually quite dependent on revenue generated from parking tickets. I am sure New York City is quite happy with the relationship.

by trimbo 10y ago

tedunangst 10y ago

That happens a lot around here too. Actually, I know (by sight) both the UPS drivers and the parking enforcement people. The UPS drivers, at least that I can see, usually try to park somewhere slightly out of the way, so they're not blocking traffic or creating a dangerous diversion. Uber drivers generally seem to act like they're the only car on the road. That's more of a driver thing than a company thing, but culture comes from the top.

cbhl 10y ago
I feel like this behavior comes from the riders -- people give bad ratings if they don't get picked up exactly at their door, double parking be damned.

wrsh07 10y ago

That's an interesting thing: in basketball, fouls are part of the game and used in the last minutes to get the ball back In most other sports, doing that would be "breaking the rules." Not sure how such a division arises. (Maybe if the authorities make no attempt to "close" said loophole?)

ghaff 10y ago
In general, in sports there's something of a distinction between fouls that are simply a violation of a game's rules and fouls that also cause or at least risk injuries. The former are generally regarded to be just part of the game and, presumably, penalties are commensurate with the foul. It's not uncommon for "dirty" play to have consequences in addition to the foul called at the time. The basketball example is an interesting one. One assumes that if the league wanted to eliminate that type of play they'd change the rules to increase the penalty in some way by docking points or whatever.

bogomipz 10y ago

Wouldn't a "scofflaw" be someone who got a ticket and did not pay it? Also parking citations are civil offenses not criminal ones. Most cities are actually quite dependent on revenue generated from parking tickets. I am sure New York City is quite happy with the relationship.