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Where have I heard this before? http://prlmnks.org/html/501131.html http://prlmnks.org/html/501131.html [2005] http://www.perlmonks.com/?node_id=561229 http://
by Xurinos 16y ago
Where have I heard this before?
http://prlmnks.org/html/501131.html http://prlmnks.org/html/501131.html [2005]
http://www.perlmonks.com/?node_id=561229 http://www.perlmonks.com/?node_id=561229 [2006]
...other places...we've all heard predictions of doom...
I agree with the sentiment against perl as a language, but we need to all move on from this "perl is dying" and "perl is becoming less relevant" meme. Unfortunately, there is no solid evidence to support it, not five years ago, not four years ago, and not today. Time to beat a different dead horse (the comments, not perl).
Seems every programming blogger looking to get some extra publicity has to cut his teeth with the same non-issue tripe about perl. I rarely see this with other languages that become popular and then unpopular, and it makes the ridiculousness of the remarks that much more poignant: people are blowing steam to get noticed. It is less fashionable to educate people into why regular expressions and hashes are not always the best tools for a job and more fashionable to whine about it.
- rimantas 16y agoUnfortunately, there is no solid evidence to support it, not five years ago, not four years ago, and not today Yeah, all cool startups choose perl as their language of choice (it has CGI.pm, not to mention the whole CPAN), PragProgs are releasing a ton of Perl books each year and bored hackers implement Perl in JS, just because. Of course Perl is not going anywhere anytime soon. But it is not interesting, attractive and sexy any more — just another legacy language with huge amount of code written. As good as dead.
- Xurinos 16y agoIs C as good as dead, too, given your rockstar measures? Seriously, I read plenty of vitriol about perl and PHP, and it turns out that in the real world people ARE continuing to use it. It may not be the latest hotness, but it has a stable following in many communities. So enough of the cool kids act; let's stop spouting this regurgitated "it's dead" BS. It is a nonissue. It is just hot air blowing in an echo chamber, mixed with pseudointellectual semantic arguments. I would rather see "This is a cool new language that blah and blah" than "people are producing less books about their language". On another note, for crying out loud, how many books does it take to tell you what $$ means? I think I read somewhere about someone's advice for getting employers to notice you: write a book. Sure, we need yet another book that says what the last 20 said.
- jrockway 16y agoBy your standards, Ruby, Python, C, C++, Java, and C# are "as good as dead".
- sjs 16y agoThey should be. I like Ruby, Python, and C but you can't help but be jealous of more robust platforms such as Erlang. We'd do well to stop inventing more of the same crap and actually advancing the state of the art. C isn't going anywhere nor do I think it should, but it should be used only when nothing else will do. Since about version 3 C# has gotten interesting. Still, even the new interesting bits are rehashed ideas from the 70s and 80s. I guess it's interesting to see them in a mainstream language from Redmond; the features themselves are pretty mundane if you have experience with more dynamic and/or functional systems. Factor is one of the only truly unique and excellent new languages. Clojure has good ideas too but I'm not sold on the JVM.
- rimantas 16y agoJava — maybe getting close. Others — no. Ruby and Python (including RoR and Django of course) are quite popular for new projects. C/C++ will always be there and let's not forget LLVM adding more interest.