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"In addition, the Neural Machine Translation system learns over time and improves, resulting in better and more natural translations the longer it works." Dumb
by dazc 10y ago
"In addition, the Neural Machine Translation system learns over time and improves, resulting in better and more natural translations the longer it works."
Dumb question (maybe?). How is it learning since it's not getting any feedback on what is the right and wrong answer?
- iokanuon 10y agoIt is getting feedback, you can correct its results.
- dazc 10y agoBut who does that on any scale?
- jumasheff 10y agoOccasionally, I submit my translations/validations via Community page: https://translate.google.com/community#en/ky https://translate.google.com/community#en/ky
- lucb1e 10y agoI would, if they'd not store my contributions locked away and assume ownership. Same with Google Maps, they have a contribution feature which I'd use if you could download Google's map under a similar license to OpenStreetMap. For Gmail and stuff I get it, but translate and maps are data projects, not software projects, which take hard work by thousands of people to build. It's extremely hard to build a competitor, and so I refuse to contribute to the existing de facto monopoly.
- rspeer 10y agoThere was one time that I tried to submit a correction to Google Maps anyway, not out of generosity but just to fix a navigation glitch, and the team that handles that data was quite rude about it. I was trying to point out that if you're in Cambridge, MA and you voice search for "transit directions to Harvard Square", you should get directions to the well-known public square and commercial hub, not a mall parking lot in Charlestown. After I tried to convey this through an interface that had no option for "you're failing to give directions to this extremely relevant place", they testily told me that the mall data was 100% correct. A team of people who had probably not been to the Boston area questioned who I was to tell them what is or isn't named Harvard Square. Eventually I got it fixed by Google's real bug report process: bringing it up in conversation around people who worked at Google.
- jumasheff 10y agoI am really hopeful, that some day they will give a link to download your contributed translations. But anyway, this service is one of the ways to help your language to prosper.
- lucb1e 10y ago> give a link to download your contributed translations Well, that wouldn't really help anyone. They would need to publish all translation data to help anyone make a competitor, which is not in Google's interest.
- AdBait 10y agoIt is being fine-tuned, not retrained I guess. Which boils down only changing some layer weights and keeping others constant.
- theDoug 10y agoA billion users, one edit at a time.
- SamBam 10y agoI would assume that it's not learning from feedback from its own translations, but just from more and more text on the web. So "is still learning" just means that it's still adding to its corpus of examples over time.
- jmmcd 10y agoAIUI, part of the system is unsupervised, i.e. is trying to learn "representations" for data independent of any translation task with a right/wrong answer. Unsupervised learning is a hot topic in machine learning.
- kevin_thibedeau 10y agoPresumably they can feed it human translations of the same text and let it find the correspondences. With their book scanning activities they must already have a good data set to work with.