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I'm operating DropJar.om and I can say it's a big headache. For some reason I keep getting DMCA notices from all kinds of lawyers and the occasional take down n

by oron 10y ago

I'm operating DropJar.om and I can say it's a big headache. For some reason I keep getting DMCA notices from all kinds of lawyers and the occasional take down notice from police when ISIS videos are uploaded there. No income and tons of complaints. http://dropjar.com http://dropjar.com

GunlogAlm 10y ago
There's a referral link in the lower right corner of your site. A few seconds after the page loads, clicking anywhere on the page takes you to hidemyass.com. I don't know if this was intentional on your part, but if so it's pretty deceptive.
- oron 10y ago
  That's part of trying to monetize it ... unsuccessfully, bu t I agree with your observation, I should take it down. They way it works right now is misleading.
  - shostack 10y ago
    Um... Isn't it downright against the TOS of that affiliate program? This is in line with every shady torrent site that hijacks clicks to force an affiliate link. Is this not outright cookie stuffing?
    - oron 10y ago
      I am sure it is. I had a link on the bottom right saying "check out HMA" the fact the click on the background opened that window was a bug, I don't believe someone would buy HMA just because I opened a tab with it ...
- oron 10y ago
  Sorted!
  - GunlogAlm 10y ago
    Awesome. :) I know how difficult affiliate advertising can be, sometimes. Perhaps conventional ads would work better for the site?
    - oron 10y ago
      I think full background ads like WeTransfer have would do it, but couldn't find an ad network that has them ... maybe an idea for another gig :-)
tokenizerrr 10y ago
Wow, you are plugging your affiliate link hard on that iste.
- oron 10y ago
  yep, I even think I made $3.5 in the last ... 6 months from it :-)
- oron 10y ago
  sorted!
rsync 10y ago
"For some reason I keep getting DMCA notices from all kinds of lawyers and the occasional take down notice from police when ISIS videos are uploaded there. No income and tons of complaints." Everyone I have shown Oh By[1] to has immediately wondered "Oh, could you upload an image instead of text ?". The answer is no and will always be no, for these reasons. It's evident right here on HN - limiting people to text weeds out a lot of the children/griefers/criminals. [1] https://0x.co https://0x.co
- NoFile 10y ago
  Pastie sites experience similar problems. Personal details being released, messages from terrorist networks and mirrors to various disallowed content.
- cr0sh 10y ago
  I'm kinda curious whether one could "use" your service to upload 4k chunks of a base64 encoded image (perhaps by hitting the shortener using curl)...seems doable from a first glance? Maybe you have something in place to prevent that? If not - then I can envision an API of sorts that you could feed an image to, chunk it out, get the codes, then do the reverse... ...the thing is, if I can see this possibility - somebody else likely has long before me (I'd hope).
NoFile 10y ago
If we receive valid content removal request through our contact form then we will have to take the content down. Judging by your username - is there a connection between you and the infamous file hosting site Oron that closed down a few year ago?
- oron 10y ago
  nope.
- exDM69 10y ago
  > If we receive valid content removal request through our contact form then we will have to take the content down. Have you considered how much takedown requests you will get if your site becomes popular? It could be hundreds to thousands per day (some ex file hosters ITT could tell how much). You'll need a whole lot of premium customers to cover the costs of reviewing the takeodowns.
goatsi 10y ago
I'm curious, what police force is it that reports the ISIS videos? Is there once in particular that seems to be hunting for them or do you get notices from a bunch of different ones that have had the videos reported to them?

by oron 10y ago

GunlogAlm 10y ago

There's a referral link in the lower right corner of your site. A few seconds after the page loads, clicking anywhere on the page takes you to hidemyass.com. I don't know if this was intentional on your part, but if so it's pretty deceptive.

oron 10y ago
That's part of trying to monetize it ... unsuccessfully, bu t I agree with your observation, I should take it down. They way it works right now is misleading.
- shostack 10y ago
  Um... Isn't it downright against the TOS of that affiliate program? This is in line with every shady torrent site that hijacks clicks to force an affiliate link. Is this not outright cookie stuffing?
  - oron 10y ago
    I am sure it is. I had a link on the bottom right saying "check out HMA" the fact the click on the background opened that window was a bug, I don't believe someone would buy HMA just because I opened a tab with it ...
oron 10y ago
Sorted!
- GunlogAlm 10y ago
  Awesome. :) I know how difficult affiliate advertising can be, sometimes. Perhaps conventional ads would work better for the site?
  - oron 10y ago
    I think full background ads like WeTransfer have would do it, but couldn't find an ad network that has them ... maybe an idea for another gig :-)

tokenizerrr 10y ago

Wow, you are plugging your affiliate link hard on that iste.

oron 10y ago
yep, I even think I made $3.5 in the last ... 6 months from it :-)
oron 10y ago
sorted!

rsync 10y ago

"For some reason I keep getting DMCA notices from all kinds of lawyers and the occasional take down notice from police when ISIS videos are uploaded there. No income and tons of complaints." Everyone I have shown Oh By[1] to has immediately wondered "Oh, could you upload an image instead of text ?". The answer is no and will always be no, for these reasons. It's evident right here on HN - limiting people to text weeds out a lot of the children/griefers/criminals. [1] https://0x.co https://0x.co

NoFile 10y ago
Pastie sites experience similar problems. Personal details being released, messages from terrorist networks and mirrors to various disallowed content.
cr0sh 10y ago
I'm kinda curious whether one could "use" your service to upload 4k chunks of a base64 encoded image (perhaps by hitting the shortener using curl)...seems doable from a first glance? Maybe you have something in place to prevent that? If not - then I can envision an API of sorts that you could feed an image to, chunk it out, get the codes, then do the reverse... ...the thing is, if I can see this possibility - somebody else likely has long before me (I'd hope).

NoFile 10y ago

If we receive valid content removal request through our contact form then we will have to take the content down. Judging by your username - is there a connection between you and the infamous file hosting site Oron that closed down a few year ago?

oron 10y ago
nope.
exDM69 10y ago
> If we receive valid content removal request through our contact form then we will have to take the content down. Have you considered how much takedown requests you will get if your site becomes popular? It could be hundreds to thousands per day (some ex file hosters ITT could tell how much). You'll need a whole lot of premium customers to cover the costs of reviewing the takeodowns.

goatsi 10y ago

I'm curious, what police force is it that reports the ISIS videos? Is there once in particular that seems to be hunting for them or do you get notices from a bunch of different ones that have had the videos reported to them?