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Can you point to any instance where WikiLeaks has released information that was not authentic and correct?

spacemanmatt 10y ago
Can you point to any instance during the election when a leak was not precisely timed/filtered to damage the Clinton campaign and/or advantage the Trump campaign?
- drops 10y ago
  Wikileaks' political alignment doesn't have anything to do with the authenticity of the material they provide.
  - tim333 10y ago
    Also it can be explained by the simpler hypothesis of Assange not liking Clinton without bringing Russia into things. see http://www.mediaite.com/online/julian-assange-hillary-clinton-tried-to-destroy-us-and-failed/ http://www.mediaite.com/online/julian-assange-hillary-clinto... and similar
  - inetknght 10y ago
    No, but it does have to do with what authentic material they provide. There's a reason courts require "the whole truth"
    - rebuilder 10y ago
      What would "the whole truth" mean in this context? An explanation of how we got here, starting with the Big Bang?
      - spacemanmatt 10y ago
        More than zero disclosures focusing on the Trump campaign, rather than the Clinton campaign. These were not just random samplings. They were cherry-picked from a huge collection and delivered with perfect timing. This is agency work, not Assange.
  - travmatt 10y ago
    But it has a lot to do with the information they omit, amirite? Isn't that why they accused the panama papers of being a CIA operation without any evidence, because they wanted to give cover for the Russian establishment they cut television deals with?
- notsrg 10y ago
  If anything Wikileaks presented a pretty ripe opportunity to replace Clinton with a candidate that could beat Trump in the general election. Nobody seized it and the Dem's lost. But yeah, blame Russia.
  - skylan_q 10y ago
    >Elect a despised criminal to be party's candidate >Don't understand why they lost >Blame Russia >Continue getting nowhere Yes, Trump is the crazy one.
  - wfo 10y ago
    Except that they absolutely did nothing of the sort, they waited to leak their information until the primary was already over...
- rfrank 10y ago
  So no, you can't.
tgragnato 10y ago
https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Julius_Baer_to_Angela_Merkel https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Julius_Baer_to_Angela_Merkel Though they're specifying "This document appears to be a forgery." ...
burkaman 10y ago
There's at least one case where they've deliberately excluded documents from a leak without a good explanation, which I think qualifies as a lie by omission: https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/wikileaks-syria-files-syria-russia-bank-2-billion/ https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/wikileaks-syria-files-syria-... Also, while I doubt they've ever released fake documents as part of a leak, they do often push incorrect and/or unverified theories and ideas on Twitter.

Can you point to any instance during the election when a leak was not precisely timed/filtered to damage the Clinton campaign and/or advantage the Trump campaign?

drops 10y ago
Wikileaks' political alignment doesn't have anything to do with the authenticity of the material they provide.
- tim333 10y ago
  Also it can be explained by the simpler hypothesis of Assange not liking Clinton without bringing Russia into things. see http://www.mediaite.com/online/julian-assange-hillary-clinton-tried-to-destroy-us-and-failed/ http://www.mediaite.com/online/julian-assange-hillary-clinto... and similar
- inetknght 10y ago
  No, but it does have to do with what authentic material they provide. There's a reason courts require "the whole truth"
  - rebuilder 10y ago
    What would "the whole truth" mean in this context? An explanation of how we got here, starting with the Big Bang?
    - spacemanmatt 10y ago
      More than zero disclosures focusing on the Trump campaign, rather than the Clinton campaign. These were not just random samplings. They were cherry-picked from a huge collection and delivered with perfect timing. This is agency work, not Assange.
- travmatt 10y ago
  But it has a lot to do with the information they omit, amirite? Isn't that why they accused the panama papers of being a CIA operation without any evidence, because they wanted to give cover for the Russian establishment they cut television deals with?
notsrg 10y ago
If anything Wikileaks presented a pretty ripe opportunity to replace Clinton with a candidate that could beat Trump in the general election. Nobody seized it and the Dem's lost. But yeah, blame Russia.
- skylan_q 10y ago
  >Elect a despised criminal to be party's candidate >Don't understand why they lost >Blame Russia >Continue getting nowhere Yes, Trump is the crazy one.
- wfo 10y ago
  Except that they absolutely did nothing of the sort, they waited to leak their information until the primary was already over...
rfrank 10y ago
So no, you can't.

tgragnato 10y ago

https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Julius_Baer_to_Angela_Merkel https://wikileaks.org/wiki/Julius_Baer_to_Angela_Merkel Though they're specifying "This document appears to be a forgery." ...

burkaman 10y ago

There's at least one case where they've deliberately excluded documents from a leak without a good explanation, which I think qualifies as a lie by omission: https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/wikileaks-syria-files-syria-russia-bank-2-billion/ https://www.dailydot.com/layer8/wikileaks-syria-files-syria-... Also, while I doubt they've ever released fake documents as part of a leak, they do often push incorrect and/or unverified theories and ideas on Twitter.