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After reading some of the comments on their website I have hard time distinguishing trolls from republican talking points. Also Poe's Law: http://www.urbandict

by pavs 16y ago

After reading some of the comments on their website I have hard time distinguishing trolls from republican talking points. Also Poe's Law: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Poes+Law http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Poes+Law

endtime 16y ago
This is what they get for pandering to the lowest common denominator. I was probably going to vote McCain...until I met Sarah Palin. Now, instead of having me wanting to participate in this (and I hope I don't flatter myself by thinking I could make better suggestions than those in the article), they've got, well, Palin fans, and you can't tell the signal from the noise.
xenophanes 16y ago
You've made a troll quality insult against Republicans ("Republicans sound like trolls" without any argument, details, quote, etc). Hmm. Trolling about trolling. Meta irony, I hope?
- jbooth 16y ago
  He said that they've become so extreme and fundamentalist that Poe's law applied -- that their own honest statements have reached the point where they look like self-parody. You can agree or disagree, but he definitely made an argument with the Poe's law citation.
- jokermatt999 16y ago
  "We should not allow Muslims to enter the country." Is this statement a troll, or what someone actually believes? There's enough wrong with it that I could believe it's a troll, and yet I've honestly met people who would be completely sincere in saying it. Browse around a little more, and you'll find many other statements like it. Part of me hopes it's just idiotic trolls ruining what could have been constructive dialogue, but unfortunately I know that some of these posts are completely sincere.
  - xenophanes 16y ago
    Heh, nice quote, I can't tell! Edit: Yes, I took it to be a real quote.
    - jokermatt999 16y ago
      Actually, that's actually a real example I found in the National Defense section. So far, that seems to be the worst minefield for "troll vs true".
  - lurkinggrue 16y ago
    We need to stop Muslin from getting into this country! That damn loosely-woven cotton fabric keeps getting in here. Yeah, what is sad is it is way too easy to troll in a place like that and come off as sincere as many actual arguments there are just as insane.
  - mynameishere 16y ago
    Should Persia, Syria, Egypt, Pakistan, India, Spain, the Balkans, etc, etc, have allowed Muslims to enter their respective countries?
    - jbooth 16y ago
      Heh. Don't beat around the bush, man. Spell it out for us. What're you saying here?
bartl 16y ago
>After reading some of the comments on their website I have hard time distinguishing trolls from republican talking points. That's indeed the most interesting aspect of the whole story.
jerf 16y ago
"After reading some of the comments on their website I have hard time distinguishing trolls from republican talking points." Look, can't we come together under the banner of mutual brotherhood and fraternity and agree that Internet trolls can't be held against any political view? Can't we all come together and agree that whatever our differences, at least we can look down our noses at that lot? Do you really think it would be that different if the Democrats had put up the same site? Or Libertarians, or Labour? The stupidity of raw internet conversation transcends political boundaries.
- rottencupcakes 16y ago
  Is Conservapedia a giant troll wiki or is it legit? I'm almost convinced it has to be satire. Bookmarked sections in this (http://www.conservapedia.com/Atheism http://www.conservapedia.com/Atheism) article include: "Commonly Cited Arguments Against Atheism and For Theism", "Atheism and Mass Murder", "Atheism and Immoral Views" The abortion article even cites Hitler as being a proponent of abortion. It's even funnier than the atheism one. http://www.conservapedia.com/Abortion http://www.conservapedia.com/Abortion
- yummyfajitas 16y ago
  If anyone doubts it would be different if the Dems made such a site: "We must not stop until the American people win the war on Health-Care [...] Our leaders today are nothing short of Angels. “Gods Elect” put in power by God for his people and his world." http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/blog/dalecourtney?page=1 http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/blog/dalecourtney?p...
  - pyre 16y ago
    I think the point that was trying to be made is that it seems like the majority of Republicans (or at least the majority of the vocal ones) hold views that border on self-satire to the point where you almost can't be sure if someone is trolling or serious. I think that you were be hard-pressed to find someone that believes that the majority Democrats believe that God put their leaders into power. Especially since (at least in my opinion) a majority of America views the Democrats as being associated with Atheism/science (e.g. Creationism vs Evolution).

by pavs 16y ago

endtime 16y ago

This is what they get for pandering to the lowest common denominator. I was probably going to vote McCain...until I met Sarah Palin. Now, instead of having me wanting to participate in this (and I hope I don't flatter myself by thinking I could make better suggestions than those in the article), they've got, well, Palin fans, and you can't tell the signal from the noise.

xenophanes 16y ago

You've made a troll quality insult against Republicans ("Republicans sound like trolls" without any argument, details, quote, etc). Hmm. Trolling about trolling. Meta irony, I hope?

jbooth 16y ago
He said that they've become so extreme and fundamentalist that Poe's law applied -- that their own honest statements have reached the point where they look like self-parody. You can agree or disagree, but he definitely made an argument with the Poe's law citation.
jokermatt999 16y ago
"We should not allow Muslims to enter the country." Is this statement a troll, or what someone actually believes? There's enough wrong with it that I could believe it's a troll, and yet I've honestly met people who would be completely sincere in saying it. Browse around a little more, and you'll find many other statements like it. Part of me hopes it's just idiotic trolls ruining what could have been constructive dialogue, but unfortunately I know that some of these posts are completely sincere.
- xenophanes 16y ago
  Heh, nice quote, I can't tell! Edit: Yes, I took it to be a real quote.
  - jokermatt999 16y ago
    Actually, that's actually a real example I found in the National Defense section. So far, that seems to be the worst minefield for "troll vs true".
- lurkinggrue 16y ago
  We need to stop Muslin from getting into this country! That damn loosely-woven cotton fabric keeps getting in here. Yeah, what is sad is it is way too easy to troll in a place like that and come off as sincere as many actual arguments there are just as insane.
- mynameishere 16y ago
  Should Persia, Syria, Egypt, Pakistan, India, Spain, the Balkans, etc, etc, have allowed Muslims to enter their respective countries?
  - jbooth 16y ago
    Heh. Don't beat around the bush, man. Spell it out for us. What're you saying here?

bartl 16y ago

>After reading some of the comments on their website I have hard time distinguishing trolls from republican talking points. That's indeed the most interesting aspect of the whole story.

jerf 16y ago

"After reading some of the comments on their website I have hard time distinguishing trolls from republican talking points." Look, can't we come together under the banner of mutual brotherhood and fraternity and agree that Internet trolls can't be held against any political view? Can't we all come together and agree that whatever our differences, at least we can look down our noses at that lot? Do you really think it would be that different if the Democrats had put up the same site? Or Libertarians, or Labour? The stupidity of raw internet conversation transcends political boundaries.

rottencupcakes 16y ago
Is Conservapedia a giant troll wiki or is it legit? I'm almost convinced it has to be satire. Bookmarked sections in this (http://www.conservapedia.com/Atheism http://www.conservapedia.com/Atheism) article include: "Commonly Cited Arguments Against Atheism and For Theism", "Atheism and Mass Murder", "Atheism and Immoral Views" The abortion article even cites Hitler as being a proponent of abortion. It's even funnier than the atheism one. http://www.conservapedia.com/Abortion http://www.conservapedia.com/Abortion
yummyfajitas 16y ago
If anyone doubts it would be different if the Dems made such a site: "We must not stop until the American people win the war on Health-Care [...] Our leaders today are nothing short of Angels. “Gods Elect” put in power by God for his people and his world." http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/blog/dalecourtney?page=1 http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/blog/dalecourtney?p...
- pyre 16y ago
  I think the point that was trying to be made is that it seems like the majority of Republicans (or at least the majority of the vocal ones) hold views that border on self-satire to the point where you almost can't be sure if someone is trolling or serious. I think that you were be hard-pressed to find someone that believes that the majority Democrats believe that God put their leaders into power. Especially since (at least in my opinion) a majority of America views the Democrats as being associated with Atheism/science (e.g. Creationism vs Evolution).