4 ms·

This is an insane reaction. There is literally no other charge for which "I would like to see supporting evidence of this claim" is somehow problematic.

goseeastarwar 10y ago
It's really not when you realize these aren't extraordinary claims. Those that wish to distract from the industry's systemic issues insist on evidence.
- redthrowaway 10y ago
  >Those that wish to distract from the industry's systemic issues insist on evidence. Insisting on evidence is verboten. On HN. I'm quickly growing tired of this place.
  - goseeastarwar 10y ago
    Much of this thread is people arguing this is embellished, untrue, the cost of doing business, or a conspiracy. Not to fear, I think your side of nonsense is safely represented. * the evidence pedant corrected my spelling
    - jimmywanger 10y ago
      > imbellished *embellished. > untrue We don't know whether the claims are true one way or another. What we do know for certain is that the claim has affected many people's careers and the financial success of a large company. If these claims are proven true, punish those responsible. If they're not true, punish those who harmed the lives and reputation of others.
- flukus 10y ago
  > Those that wish to distract from the industry's systemic issues insist on evidence Yes, because it would be nice to know if it really was a systemic issue before wasting time and energy fixing it. "It's totally an issue, trust me" isn't worth acting on.
  - goseeastarwar 10y ago
    How many accounts of harassment do you need to believe there's a problem, out of curiosity? Nearly every woman in the industry has a story to tell, most say nothing. You'd know that if you'd bother to speak to any.
    - flukus 10y ago
      > How many accounts of harassment do you need to believe there's a problem, out of curiosity? Zero, I'm not taking anecdotal evidence.
    - jimmywanger 10y ago
      > How many accounts of harassment do you need to believe there's a problem, out of curiosity? How many accounts of the effectiveness of homeopathy do you need to believe that it works, out of curiosity?

goseeastarwar 10y ago

It's really not when you realize these aren't extraordinary claims. Those that wish to distract from the industry's systemic issues insist on evidence.

redthrowaway 10y ago
>Those that wish to distract from the industry's systemic issues insist on evidence. Insisting on evidence is verboten. On HN. I'm quickly growing tired of this place.
- goseeastarwar 10y ago
  Much of this thread is people arguing this is embellished, untrue, the cost of doing business, or a conspiracy. Not to fear, I think your side of nonsense is safely represented. * the evidence pedant corrected my spelling
  - jimmywanger 10y ago
    > imbellished *embellished. > untrue We don't know whether the claims are true one way or another. What we do know for certain is that the claim has affected many people's careers and the financial success of a large company. If these claims are proven true, punish those responsible. If they're not true, punish those who harmed the lives and reputation of others.
flukus 10y ago
> Those that wish to distract from the industry's systemic issues insist on evidence Yes, because it would be nice to know if it really was a systemic issue before wasting time and energy fixing it. "It's totally an issue, trust me" isn't worth acting on.
- goseeastarwar 10y ago
  How many accounts of harassment do you need to believe there's a problem, out of curiosity? Nearly every woman in the industry has a story to tell, most say nothing. You'd know that if you'd bother to speak to any.
  - flukus 10y ago
    > How many accounts of harassment do you need to believe there's a problem, out of curiosity? Zero, I'm not taking anecdotal evidence.
  - jimmywanger 10y ago
    > How many accounts of harassment do you need to believe there's a problem, out of curiosity? How many accounts of the effectiveness of homeopathy do you need to believe that it works, out of curiosity?