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>decreasing state funding per student. I don't get this. Not only can a person who has pauper parents afford tuition + cash left over to pay the rent at any st

>decreasing state funding per student. I don't get this. Not only can a person who has pauper parents afford tuition + cash left over to pay the rent at any state school in the nation due to Pell Grants and subsidized student loans, but in California you still get additional state grants on top of that. Not to mention all the other freebies that California dumps on its residents. If you mean to say that kids aren't going to college because they can't afford it, I don't buy it for one second. That is unless the student's parents have a job that gives a middle class income, disqualifying the student from getting a Pell Grant, and not contributing towards the education costs. Is that what you're referring to?

azernik 10y ago
Decreasing state funding for student manifests itself in a lower quality of education; not that the student is unable to pay their tuition, but that the school is unable to hire enough professors.
- imjustsaying 10y ago
  I'm going to need to see a source on that. The US has by far the most expensive education in the world yet doesn't come close to the highest scores of any metric other than self-confidence.
me2i81 10y ago
The maximum Pell grant plus the maximum Stafford loan will not even cover UC tuition, let alone housing or other expenses.
- imjustsaying 10y ago
  >Tuition and fees* $13,500 http://admission.universityofcalifornia.edu/paying-for-uc/tuition-and-cost/ http://admission.universityofcalifornia.edu/paying-for-uc/tu... >$9,500 for freshmen, $12,500 for seniors https://studentaid.ed.gov/sa/types/loans/subsidized-unsubsidized https://studentaid.ed.gov/sa/types/loans/subsidized-unsubsid... (subsidized here means super-subsidized, unsubsidized means less subsidized, as the government is still artificially restricting prices by guaranteeing the loan) >for 2016-2017, Cal Grants are up to $12,240 at a University of California campus Please correct me if the award isn't this high, I don't know anything about California grants. http://www.csac.ca.gov/doc.asp?id=905 http://www.csac.ca.gov/doc.asp?id=905 >Pell Grant: For the 2016–17 award year (July 1, 2016, to June 30, 2017), the maximum award is $5,815 https://studentaid.ed.gov/sa/types/grants-scholarships/pell https://studentaid.ed.gov/sa/types/grants-scholarships/pell Total .govbux: $27,555 Total tuition: $13,500 Twice as high lol

azernik 10y ago

Decreasing state funding for student manifests itself in a lower quality of education; not that the student is unable to pay their tuition, but that the school is unable to hire enough professors.

imjustsaying 10y ago
I'm going to need to see a source on that. The US has by far the most expensive education in the world yet doesn't come close to the highest scores of any metric other than self-confidence.

me2i81 10y ago

The maximum Pell grant plus the maximum Stafford loan will not even cover UC tuition, let alone housing or other expenses.

imjustsaying 10y ago
>Tuition and fees* $13,500 http://admission.universityofcalifornia.edu/paying-for-uc/tuition-and-cost/ http://admission.universityofcalifornia.edu/paying-for-uc/tu... >$9,500 for freshmen, $12,500 for seniors https://studentaid.ed.gov/sa/types/loans/subsidized-unsubsidized https://studentaid.ed.gov/sa/types/loans/subsidized-unsubsid... (subsidized here means super-subsidized, unsubsidized means less subsidized, as the government is still artificially restricting prices by guaranteeing the loan) >for 2016-2017, Cal Grants are up to $12,240 at a University of California campus Please correct me if the award isn't this high, I don't know anything about California grants. http://www.csac.ca.gov/doc.asp?id=905 http://www.csac.ca.gov/doc.asp?id=905 >Pell Grant: For the 2016–17 award year (July 1, 2016, to June 30, 2017), the maximum award is $5,815 https://studentaid.ed.gov/sa/types/grants-scholarships/pell https://studentaid.ed.gov/sa/types/grants-scholarships/pell Total .govbux: $27,555 Total tuition: $13,500 Twice as high lol