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So which category does the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation fall under?

by mikeyouse 10y ago

alrs 10y ago
Sterilize the poor.
gaius 10y ago
Or the Zuckerbergs?
- vkou 10y ago
  It's not yet clear if the Zuckerberg foundation will accomplish meaningful humanitarian goals, or serve as an ingenious device to funnel wealth to his relatives. Melinda and Bill have done pretty well on the humanitarian bit.
  - mikeyouse 10y ago
    To date the Zuckerberg foundation has given $75 million to SF General Hospital as well as committed to giving $3 billion to establish the Biohub in San Francisco. They've committed to giving 99% of their shares to the Chan-Zuckerberg Initiative which is currently valued at something like $50 billion. Paying the smartest doctors and scientists in the world to cure diseases is a pretty good way to have a humanitarian impact.
    - gaius 10y ago
      This whole story is about a doctor, remember... They don't hand out sainthoods in Med School...
    - vkou 10y ago
      As far as I can tell, Biohub is a medical R&D company. It will keep control over all IP developed by it, and sell licenses (As opposed to the Gates foundation, which makes its work freely available.) By the same logic, Pfizer is a humanitarian charity - it too employs the world's smartest doctors to try to cure diseases.
      - mikeyouse 10y ago
        Nope -- The Chan Zuckerberg Initiative is a for-profit company which allows them to lobby, etc. The Chan Zuckerberg Biohub is a non-profit research entity that has received funding from the CZI, and the IP / license fees will be shared between CZ Biohub and the research institutions that they're partnering with (UCSF, Stanford, and UC Berkeley). Researchers will also have the ability to enter their IP into the public domain (with Biohub approval). It'd be more similar to Pfizer if Pfizer fired all their sales and marketing staff as well as funneled all of their profits into additional research instead of paying billions of dollars to shareholders every year. The CZ Biohub is basically a West Coast Broad Institute.
alrs 10y ago
Remote control sterilization[1]. Using India's poor for medical experiments[2]. [1] http://time.com/2963130/the-future-of-birth-control-remote-control-fertility/ http://time.com/2963130/the-future-of-birth-control-remote-c... [2] http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2908963/Judges-demand-answers-children-die-controversial-cancer-vaccine-trial-India.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2908963/Judges-deman...
dredmorbius 10y ago
There's been an argument that B&MGF's intellectual property focus has been self serving. Nothing heree to that specific end, but a lot on the organisation's IP focus: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=gates+foundation+intellectual+property&t=ftas&ia=web https://duckduckgo.com/?q=gates+foundation+intellectual+prop... I'm digging further. I actually strongly agree with population and reproduction programmes. In strong opposition to GP.

So which category does the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation fall under?

alrs 10y ago

Sterilize the poor.

gaius 10y ago

Or the Zuckerbergs?

vkou 10y ago
It's not yet clear if the Zuckerberg foundation will accomplish meaningful humanitarian goals, or serve as an ingenious device to funnel wealth to his relatives. Melinda and Bill have done pretty well on the humanitarian bit.
- mikeyouse 10y ago
  To date the Zuckerberg foundation has given $75 million to SF General Hospital as well as committed to giving $3 billion to establish the Biohub in San Francisco. They've committed to giving 99% of their shares to the Chan-Zuckerberg Initiative which is currently valued at something like $50 billion. Paying the smartest doctors and scientists in the world to cure diseases is a pretty good way to have a humanitarian impact.
  - gaius 10y ago
    This whole story is about a doctor, remember... They don't hand out sainthoods in Med School...
  - vkou 10y ago
    As far as I can tell, Biohub is a medical R&D company. It will keep control over all IP developed by it, and sell licenses (As opposed to the Gates foundation, which makes its work freely available.) By the same logic, Pfizer is a humanitarian charity - it too employs the world's smartest doctors to try to cure diseases.
    - mikeyouse 10y ago
      Nope -- The Chan Zuckerberg Initiative is a for-profit company which allows them to lobby, etc. The Chan Zuckerberg Biohub is a non-profit research entity that has received funding from the CZI, and the IP / license fees will be shared between CZ Biohub and the research institutions that they're partnering with (UCSF, Stanford, and UC Berkeley). Researchers will also have the ability to enter their IP into the public domain (with Biohub approval). It'd be more similar to Pfizer if Pfizer fired all their sales and marketing staff as well as funneled all of their profits into additional research instead of paying billions of dollars to shareholders every year. The CZ Biohub is basically a West Coast Broad Institute.

alrs 10y ago

Remote control sterilization[1]. Using India's poor for medical experiments[2]. [1] http://time.com/2963130/the-future-of-birth-control-remote-control-fertility/ http://time.com/2963130/the-future-of-birth-control-remote-c... [2] http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2908963/Judges-demand-answers-children-die-controversial-cancer-vaccine-trial-India.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2908963/Judges-deman...

dredmorbius 10y ago

There's been an argument that B&MGF's intellectual property focus has been self serving. Nothing heree to that specific end, but a lot on the organisation's IP focus: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=gates+foundation+intellectual+property&t=ftas&ia=web https://duckduckgo.com/?q=gates+foundation+intellectual+prop... I'm digging further. I actually strongly agree with population and reproduction programmes. In strong opposition to GP.