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Well... the EPA might not weigh in this time. They require 'tamper resistant' emission control systems. Making it easy for customers to change the software cou
by zardo 10y ago
Well... the EPA might not weigh in this time. They require 'tamper resistant' emission control systems.
Making it easy for customers to change the software could put you in a bad situation. Essentially, the same one VW is in, a $35,000 per vehicle fine.
- revelation 10y agoGiven the "coal rolling" trucks, those big fines still have yet to hit their target?
- zardo 10y agoThere is no EPA highway patrol, so they can only go after large violators. The companies making the 'chip kits' do get taken to the wall occasionally.
- Broken_Hippo 10y agoBut that doesn't mean the farmers shoudln't be able to work on the system itself if it is broken, using readouts from the system as a guide to fixing it. This might mean, however, that instead of being able to fix the software itself, they have to buy a new drive, exchanging in the old one in the process. This small bit is a reasonable request because folks can be highly motivated to cheat otherwise.
- zardo 10y agoIt's certainly true that the manufacturers have no reason to push back, and every reason to interpret the rule broadly. It's easier to just lock down everything than to get the lawyers involved in the software architecture.
- ryandrake 10y agoThe EPA can say "tamper resistant," but I call it "repair resistant". I object to the word "tamper" because implies that even though I am the owner of the car I somehow require authorization to work on it.
- tbrownaw 10y agoEh, if it's strictly limited to regulatory compliance requirements that might make sense. Make sure it takes significant effort to turn off the public-safety features that cost you a bit of efficiency but also stop you giving all your neighbors cancer and all that.
- 0xfeba 10y agoI've never heard of an individual being fined for removing/disabling emissions equipment, only businesses. Have you?
- wheelerwj 10y agolots of car owners are fined or have their vehicle licenses removes or suspended for failing to maintain smog emissions standards.
- 0xfeba 10y agoBeing fined by your state for not meeting emissions is one thing, being fined by the EPA for disabling emissions equipment is another, much larger thing.