Well, from my outside perspective there are certainly "Lack of generics is a feature" and "Generics are a feature that has not yet arrived" camps. Again from a

Well, from my outside perspective there are certainly "Lack of generics is a feature" and "Generics are a feature that has not yet arrived" camps. Again from an outside perspective, it also seems that these camps talk about their viewpoints to outsiders more than to each other. Personally, I always thought the reality is probably closer to "Not adding generics prematurely is a design feature, and it hasn't moved forward yet since the core team doesn't need it enough, and no proposal developed critical mass of community support to consider it appropriately vetted."