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Okay, so is anyone else bothered by this statement: > Apple manufacturer Foxconn was today taking extraordinary measures [...] Foxconn or Hon Hai makes produc

Okay, so is anyone else bothered by this statement: > Apple manufacturer Foxconn was today taking extraordinary measures [...] Foxconn or Hon Hai makes products for many different companies and their parts end up in thousands of different products all over the world, yes they are one of the primary manufacturers for Apple products but Apple is not the only one that is having products manufactured there. I find that it is very disproportionate for a news article not to mention that other companies also do business with them thereby putting the spotlight just on Apple.

thenduks 16y ago
They did mention other clients: The Taiwanese technology giant, which also boasts Dell and Hewlett-Packard among its clients... But I agree with you. They're using Apple's high profile to make the news here, it seems. So much more than iPhones (or even Dell's) are made by Foxconn. Still, it's hard to fault them for trying to bring attention to the situation in any way possible.
- X-Istence 16y ago
  Sure, but even the Hacker News title is specifically biased towards Apple. I understand why the media does it, and I can certainly sympathise with them wanting to get the story as much attention as possible but it just seems unfair to single out one company out of the masses just because anything mentioned about said company turns to gold, or something close to it with ad impressions. Morally I don't think it is fair reporting, especially since most people won't read past the first two or three paragraphs, let alone read all the way to the eighth paragraph to find out that Hon Hai (Foxconn) makes products for other corporations as well, thereby painting just Apple in a bad picture.
  - eagleal 16y ago
    I agree, but the point is, since school, you learn that headlines are focused to capture people attention. I'm not a journalist, but it appears to be one of the most important things in an article. (It's like advertising, you take the worst case of people's attention.) Maybe if the HN (edit) title was as you suggested, it wouldn't make the homepage.
raganwald 16y ago
It's inaccurate in fact but accurate in spirit. Companies like Apple and Nike should not be allowed to outsource human misery, pollution, or anything else that is reprehensible. Apple have been bragging about how green their products are, so clearly they are not above taking credit for things done by their subcontractors in their name. So it's fair to bring their name into it when asking questions about working conditions. That being said, it's also fair to ask HP, Dell, or anyone else who employs Foxconn the exact same questions.
- pyre 16y ago
  > That being said, it's also fair to ask HP, Dell, or anyone else who employs Foxconn the exact same questions. I think that this is the point. Pointing only at Apple in this case reeks of the 'Micro$oft'-type anti-fanboyism of recent years.
- wisty 16y ago
  Ironically, Nike is now quite highly regarded for their current work conditions. They had a massive cleanup about 10 years ago. But the stain remains ... Moral - don't underestimate how long people will hate your guts for mistreating workers.
Charuru 16y ago
I think it's very understandable since Apple is definitely the largest customer.
grellas 16y ago
In a sick sort of way, Fake Steve Jobs makes the same point here: http://www.fakesteve.net/2010/05/another-foxconn-jumper-and-you-know-whos-the-real-victim-me.html http://www.fakesteve.net/2010/05/another-foxconn-jumper-and-... ("Another Foxconn jumper and you know who's the real victim: me"). The piece really is in bad taste but does, in a satiric way, make the point that the press is using this to take shots at Apple.

thenduks 16y ago

They did mention other clients: The Taiwanese technology giant, which also boasts Dell and Hewlett-Packard among its clients... But I agree with you. They're using Apple's high profile to make the news here, it seems. So much more than iPhones (or even Dell's) are made by Foxconn. Still, it's hard to fault them for trying to bring attention to the situation in any way possible.

X-Istence 16y ago
Sure, but even the Hacker News title is specifically biased towards Apple. I understand why the media does it, and I can certainly sympathise with them wanting to get the story as much attention as possible but it just seems unfair to single out one company out of the masses just because anything mentioned about said company turns to gold, or something close to it with ad impressions. Morally I don't think it is fair reporting, especially since most people won't read past the first two or three paragraphs, let alone read all the way to the eighth paragraph to find out that Hon Hai (Foxconn) makes products for other corporations as well, thereby painting just Apple in a bad picture.
- eagleal 16y ago
  I agree, but the point is, since school, you learn that headlines are focused to capture people attention. I'm not a journalist, but it appears to be one of the most important things in an article. (It's like advertising, you take the worst case of people's attention.) Maybe if the HN (edit) title was as you suggested, it wouldn't make the homepage.

raganwald 16y ago

It's inaccurate in fact but accurate in spirit. Companies like Apple and Nike should not be allowed to outsource human misery, pollution, or anything else that is reprehensible. Apple have been bragging about how green their products are, so clearly they are not above taking credit for things done by their subcontractors in their name. So it's fair to bring their name into it when asking questions about working conditions. That being said, it's also fair to ask HP, Dell, or anyone else who employs Foxconn the exact same questions.

pyre 16y ago
> That being said, it's also fair to ask HP, Dell, or anyone else who employs Foxconn the exact same questions. I think that this is the point. Pointing only at Apple in this case reeks of the 'Micro$oft'-type anti-fanboyism of recent years.
wisty 16y ago
Ironically, Nike is now quite highly regarded for their current work conditions. They had a massive cleanup about 10 years ago. But the stain remains ... Moral - don't underestimate how long people will hate your guts for mistreating workers.

Charuru 16y ago

I think it's very understandable since Apple is definitely the largest customer.

grellas 16y ago

In a sick sort of way, Fake Steve Jobs makes the same point here: http://www.fakesteve.net/2010/05/another-foxconn-jumper-and-you-know-whos-the-real-victim-me.html http://www.fakesteve.net/2010/05/another-foxconn-jumper-and-... ("Another Foxconn jumper and you know who's the real victim: me"). The piece really is in bad taste but does, in a satiric way, make the point that the press is using this to take shots at Apple.