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Midori was still built on a C++ microkernel though.

• pjmlp 10y ago
  Which doesn't diminishes its value. No one would though of writing an OS in C++ in the 90's, it was too slow and everyone knew that microkernels could only be possibly written in C.
  • JdeBP 10y ago
    I thought of writing an operating system in C++ in the 1990s. I didn't achieve it until after the turn of the century. But I definitely thought of it. The "everyone" who knew these things about C++ was a small set of vocal people largely from the Unix and C worlds. Other people who were at the time developing Windows NT device drivers in C++, to pick one example, knew that a lot of the received, and loudly recirculated, wisdom about systems programming and C++ was just bunkum.
    • pjmlp 10y ago
      Me too, I never liked C. What I was trying to convey with that comment was that C++ was looked down for systems programming, it required Symbian, BeOS, OS X IO Kit to change that mentality. Even Windows that you mention, which always was a more welcoming place for C++ tooling, Microsoft only started to officially support it with Visual C++ 2012 when the /kernel flag was introduced. So even that microkernel could have been eventually written in System C#, if there was enough management support to keep developing Midori and improving the language to the point C++ wouldn't be needed. Instead the project was canceled and since in IT, seeing is believing, there will be idea for many, that there wasn't any other way to accomplish it. I love the way Alan Kay and others like him think, it is not what the technology give us today, but what it can give us tomorrow in a few years time.