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You've invented a new problem explicitly designed to exclude the solution I mentioned. The problem in the article is that there is unused/abandoned housing. Ai

by wyager 10y ago

You've invented a new problem explicitly designed to exclude the solution I mentioned. The problem in the article is that there is unused/abandoned housing. AirBnB fixes that. If you have a xenophobic fear of tourists or something, that's a different issue. AirBnB also decreases the profitability of large hotels, which means more building space allocated to residential housing.

mshook 10y ago
AirBnB makes it worse for the local population, that's what this 60% thing is about. Sure it's great as a tourist but as an owner, when you could rent your place for X € a month, on AirBnB you could probably rent it for 70% of that for a week. Bottom line is you're not looking for people to rent it all year long, now you want to make a quick buck and rent it on AirBnB. There's an article in the HuffPost: http://www.huffingtonpost.fr/2016/03/30/airbnb-paris-location-rentable-loyer-appartement-logement-hotel_n_9572252.html http://www.huffingtonpost.fr/2016/03/30/airbnb-paris-locatio... "In the 10 most touristy areas, 9 to 10 nights on AirBnB cover a whole month of 'regular' rent". To get there, they analyzed 8000 places out of 35000 (studios and one bedroom).
- mshook 10y ago
  Not sure why that was down voted: I mean the goal of the 60% tax measure is to offer places to rent for locals, AirBnB doesn't solve that, it makes it worse...
kovacs 10y ago
There's nothing xenophobic about wanting to build a community of dedicated citizens. I didn't invent a new problem, you're just failing to account for it in your capitalistic solution. Zoning laws exist for a reason and AirBnB is in direct conflict with them. Again it goes back to what you want to prioritize, a well knit community or a city of hotel rooms mixed with residential housing that encourages more rent seeking. You're willing to allow for a lower quality and further enriching an already rich upper class. So not only do renters have to pay high rents and never own, they now need to sacrifice any semblance of community as the incentives to AirBnB a place would displace all long term rentals. Not everything that can be monetized and made efficient should be, but I realize that's super counter to the Ayn Rand HN crowd. I maybe would've agreed with you 10 years ago but I've since realized the flaws in libertarian thinking. Either that or I'm wrong and unbridled capitalism is the right solution to all the problems but I seriously doubt it.

by wyager 10y ago

mshook 10y ago

AirBnB makes it worse for the local population, that's what this 60% thing is about. Sure it's great as a tourist but as an owner, when you could rent your place for X € a month, on AirBnB you could probably rent it for 70% of that for a week. Bottom line is you're not looking for people to rent it all year long, now you want to make a quick buck and rent it on AirBnB. There's an article in the HuffPost: http://www.huffingtonpost.fr/2016/03/30/airbnb-paris-location-rentable-loyer-appartement-logement-hotel_n_9572252.html http://www.huffingtonpost.fr/2016/03/30/airbnb-paris-locatio... "In the 10 most touristy areas, 9 to 10 nights on AirBnB cover a whole month of 'regular' rent". To get there, they analyzed 8000 places out of 35000 (studios and one bedroom).

mshook 10y ago
Not sure why that was down voted: I mean the goal of the 60% tax measure is to offer places to rent for locals, AirBnB doesn't solve that, it makes it worse...

kovacs 10y ago

There's nothing xenophobic about wanting to build a community of dedicated citizens. I didn't invent a new problem, you're just failing to account for it in your capitalistic solution. Zoning laws exist for a reason and AirBnB is in direct conflict with them. Again it goes back to what you want to prioritize, a well knit community or a city of hotel rooms mixed with residential housing that encourages more rent seeking. You're willing to allow for a lower quality and further enriching an already rich upper class. So not only do renters have to pay high rents and never own, they now need to sacrifice any semblance of community as the incentives to AirBnB a place would displace all long term rentals. Not everything that can be monetized and made efficient should be, but I realize that's super counter to the Ayn Rand HN crowd. I maybe would've agreed with you 10 years ago but I've since realized the flaws in libertarian thinking. Either that or I'm wrong and unbridled capitalism is the right solution to all the problems but I seriously doubt it.