We also spent millennia believing the earth is flat. I see your point that "Religious people who live according to traditional gender roles then outbreed the at

We also spent millennia believing the earth is flat. I see your point that "Religious people who live according to traditional gender roles then outbreed the atheists" which is definitely a worry of mine too. I've recently begun wondering about the value of my parents' old fashioned values, that if you're a productive member of society and you don't have kids, you're a drain on society. The problem there with that argument is the same problem with the "if you don't vote don't complain" argument but there is an element of truth to it. I also think that if women provide, nothing prevents them from having children, whether with men or otherwise. Men will still have to protect and provide in relationships, but it will be as partners in relationships do, not as men being men. A far cry from useless.