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(I've posted this before, but it's very relevant to this topic) Learning to filter guesswork and scams from robust claims is easily the most important skill th
by pdkl95 10y ago
(I've posted this before, but it's very relevant to this topic)
Learning to filter guesswork and scams from robust claims is easily the most important skill that the general pubic needs to learn. It's hard to progress in any other topic if you don't understand the basic methods for filtering good information from the many mistakes, misinterpretations, scams and other bad data.
Democracy and modern civilization itself requires at least some understanding of the scientific method. Sagan's warning in "The Demon-Haunted World"[1] was frighteningly prescient:
I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time --
when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all
the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome
technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing
the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the
ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority;
when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our
critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good
and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition
and darkness...
Until the public "baloney detection kit"[2] (and uses it regularly), trying to teach other topics is probably a waste of time, especially when you aren't even speaking the same language[3].
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Demon-Haunted_World https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Demon-Haunted_World
[2] https://www.brainpickings.org/2014/01/03/baloney-detection-kit-carl-sagan/ https://www.brainpickings.org/2014/01/03/baloney-detection-k...
[3] http://scienceblogs.com/clock/2007/05/31/more-than-just-resistance-of-s/ http://scienceblogs.com/clock/2007/05/31/more-than-just-resi...
- dsjoerg 10y ago"easily the most important skill that the general pubic needs to learn" <-- important for who, them or you?
- kevinwang 10y agoImportant in order to avoid the future Sagan predicted, I'd guess
- whytaka 10y agoLife is generally easier to navigate when your beliefs tally up well with truth.
- pm90 10y agoFor everyone. Witch-hunts and human sacrifices were believed to help with getting better harvests and they did not. And yet they were believed for thousands of years before we finally understood and adopted the scientific method. If you do not try to understand the causes of your problems, it becomes very hard to effectively find solutions as well.
- dang 10y agoPlease don't repost comments, especially not generic ones. HN threads are supposed to be conversations, and good conversation doesn't work that way.
- pdkl95 10y agoUnderstood. I'll keep that in mind in the future.
- dsjoerg 10y agoI'll come at this from another direction -- is the general tendency towards being easily BS'd and manipulated a bug or a feature? It's not obvious to me that societies where the mass of people are not easily manipulated will tend to last longer. They may be tend to be wiped out by societies who can be molded more readily into an effective fighting/conquering force. I agree that individual selection pressures tend to favor those who are scam-resistant, however only in scams that directly adversely affect the person. If there's a group/societal scam going on, it's probably individually safer to go along with it rather than buck the group and risk being ostracized.