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A few years ago I decided to leave my job, I was secure but unhappy with the company, so I took some time to try to find a good fit. Looking for a new job wasn'
by bane 10y ago
A few years ago I decided to leave my job, I was secure but unhappy with the company, so I took some time to try to find a good fit. Looking for a new job wasn't a full-time affair, but I'd say I spent about 10 hours a week on it.
I didn't collect metrics like this, but it took about a year and something north of 170 applications/reachouts. I received zero direct rejections. Probably actually talked to about 15 different companies. Phone interviewed with 3 or 4 and interviewed directly with 2.
I ended up not getting any of those positions.
But I don't feel bad about it, the positions where I made it to the interview rounds weren't even the ones I applied to within those companies. Both of the interviews were friendly, but almost entirely pointless and were non-representative of what I would have likely been doing there anyway.
Finally, after really wanting to leave, I just did the time honored thing of asking a few friends who worked at places I was interested in if they'd refer me. Two places said they'd like to talk, and I work at one of them now. This process took about 3 weeks and I ended up in as near a perfect fit as you can get.
Side-effect, after working at this new place for a couple years, those friends I asked, keep popping up every once in a while to see if I'd be interested in something where they currently work...so they've kept in mind that I both:
- switch jobs
- thought of them when I was looking to do it
I'm not a developer, I'm much more into Technical Project/Program Management, so YMMV, but I also noticed that the hiring processes for people like me have almost no steam behind them. Most companies tried real hard to fit me into developer or engineer pipelines, they had almost no ability to entertain anybody outside of that kind of hiring experience. Of the few that I phone interviewed with, at some point the subject of doing a coding assignment came up and I simply told them that we'd all be sad at events around that idea:
I'm a passable coder, but years out of date. I haven't coded professionally for probably getting onto 15 years now. The job I wanted didn't involve any software development, so the exercise wasn't very useful. If I passed it, it both said something about their engineering maturity (and I wouldn't want to work there) and again wouldn't be representative of my work.
The actual hiring machine at most companies seems impossibly broken. I ran into a few good recruiters, but most were just trying to make quota or show effort.
- lj3 10y agoThe last time I got a referral from an old co-worker, it got me past the resume screen and no farther. The rest of the interview was identical to what you'd face if you had applied cold off the street. YMMV.
- bane 10y agoYeah, I had to do an interview anyways, but the process at that point (for me at least) was more of a formality than a decider. They were basically checking to make sure I wasn't a crazy person and that the reference bonus they were about to pay my friend was worth anything. This mirrors the experience I've had at several jobs, so I don't think it's terribly rare. Where it's been different than this has been when getting referred to your everyday startup -- and usually those processes are so braindead I end up in a queue for a programming exchange that won't matter in the end. And I've interviewed at some of the biggest "startups" that regularly make front-page here -- so I'm not talking about weird edge cases.
- lj3 10y ago> Where it's been different than this has been when getting referred to your everyday startup Yeah, that's the kind of company I was referred to. I assume you don't work in startups? :)