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The article was about women getting married less, even when they had children. So it has everything to do with the discussion. Also, sure, both parents can mak

The article was about women getting married less, even when they had children. So it has everything to do with the discussion. Also, sure, both parents can make decisions for the well-being of the child, but if you're implying that the woman should marry the man if she doesn't want to because he wants to marry her, then you're the one being sexist. The parent to my original reply is invoking evolution to explain why a woman would or wouldn't want someone as a partner. Those arguments always end up being sexist, attributing women's desires not to rational decision making but to whatever desires the man imagines evolution has instilled into the woman.

watwut 10y ago
You know how it goes. Women are emotional and do primary emotions based decisions, until it seems like some subset of women made cold rational decision. At that point, it is all about evolution and genes. Or they are evil. Can't possibly be anything else. /s
- mirimir 10y ago
  Hey, it's common knowledge that maleness is just a testosterone hack ;)
mirimir 10y ago
Both male and female behavior are driven by natural selection. I mean, how could they not be?
phkahler 10y ago
>> attributing women's desires not to rational decision making but to whatever desires the man imagines evolution has instilled into the woman. You were correct to point out that it is rational self-interest on the part of the woman. My point is that because it makes sense, evolution will have selected for that behavior. It is also present in mammals of lower intelligence than humans, so it seems likely that it's a deeper biological phenomenon that just a "rational decision". Either way, the stuff discussed in the article make perfect sense.
naasking 10y ago
> The article was about women getting married less, even when they had children. Right, so it had nothing to do with being a single mother, and single mothers aren't relevant to this discussion at all. > Also, sure, both parents can make decisions for the well-being of the child, but if you're implying that the woman should marry the man if she doesn't want to because he wants to marry her, then you're the one being sexist. Actually, I'm replying to your implicit assumption that the mother is going to be the caregiver, and so her decisions must be rational because she's just looking after her children's well-being. For instance, see your comment: > A single mother who marries a man with low earnings and no real prospect of ever earning more will mean she's scraping by the rest of her life. Telling that you don't mention that the man isn't scraping by the rest of his life too.

watwut 10y ago

You know how it goes. Women are emotional and do primary emotions based decisions, until it seems like some subset of women made cold rational decision. At that point, it is all about evolution and genes. Or they are evil. Can't possibly be anything else. /s

mirimir 10y ago
Hey, it's common knowledge that maleness is just a testosterone hack ;)

mirimir 10y ago

Both male and female behavior are driven by natural selection. I mean, how could they not be?

phkahler 10y ago

>> attributing women's desires not to rational decision making but to whatever desires the man imagines evolution has instilled into the woman. You were correct to point out that it is rational self-interest on the part of the woman. My point is that because it makes sense, evolution will have selected for that behavior. It is also present in mammals of lower intelligence than humans, so it seems likely that it's a deeper biological phenomenon that just a "rational decision". Either way, the stuff discussed in the article make perfect sense.

naasking 10y ago

> The article was about women getting married less, even when they had children. Right, so it had nothing to do with being a single mother, and single mothers aren't relevant to this discussion at all. > Also, sure, both parents can make decisions for the well-being of the child, but if you're implying that the woman should marry the man if she doesn't want to because he wants to marry her, then you're the one being sexist. Actually, I'm replying to your implicit assumption that the mother is going to be the caregiver, and so her decisions must be rational because she's just looking after her children's well-being. For instance, see your comment: > A single mother who marries a man with low earnings and no real prospect of ever earning more will mean she's scraping by the rest of her life. Telling that you don't mention that the man isn't scraping by the rest of his life too.