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> It's impossible to assign a "true"/"fake" value to all news stories... especially with our increasingly biased and divided media. This is an absolutely irrat

> It's impossible to assign a "true"/"fake" value to all news stories... especially with our increasingly biased and divided media. This is an absolutely irrational argument, which is not to say it is incorrect. It is possible to assign levels of truths to information - we do it all the time in infrastructure. OTOH, it matters not if biases exist in media - those biases can be "truths" as well to the groups of entities who share the biases. Truths don't imply absolute labeling however, as you so well point out. We all knew Fox News was biased toward the Republican's views. In hindsight, Fox looks quaint compared to Breitbart. Supporting Breitbart or Infowars is another thing entirely, given they support continued, or self-referential irrationality. Irrationality that spreads itself, in other words. I consider this harmful to humans. The only people who don't want truths to exist is people whose intent is to spread their irrationality to gain control over others. What will happen, and you can mark my words on this, is that AI will be known primarily in assisting humans in their final effort to reduce the amount of damage those-who-speak-for-others cause the larger group, primarily by detecting their intent in FUCKING with the way we all communicate with each other in a trusted manner. When, not if, this happens, those who played this game will learn the real price of dissonance.

intended 10y ago
No. I agree with everything you said, except, critically the last part. I too believe that Intent identification is the holy grail of any algorithmic way of solving this. I think the creation of such a system will be then of us. Not our savior. All of the websites, tracking, micro targeting in current and future elections were ostensibly created to make the world a better place. People believed that code would allow humanity to break the restraints of old nation states, and keep ahead of them. But eventually nation states did catch up, and we see what that has resulted in. I think AI is far too overused a term for statistical modeling and categorization. But creating any tool to "help" people understand each other will only result in its insights being used to target people open/vulnerable to having their opinions changed. And that will result in MORE control. Not less. Don't create a tool until you understand how it will be used against you.
- kordless 10y ago
  > I think the creation of such a system will be then of us. Not our savior. Absolutely. The intent to create rational transfer of information will result in creating a new type of life that is us, yet is not us. This will likely result in the "end" of us, but that's the nature of things anyway. Nothing is forever, but it sure as hell seems it could have been put off so I didn't have to deal with it.

intended 10y ago

No. I agree with everything you said, except, critically the last part. I too believe that Intent identification is the holy grail of any algorithmic way of solving this. I think the creation of such a system will be then of us. Not our savior. All of the websites, tracking, micro targeting in current and future elections were ostensibly created to make the world a better place. People believed that code would allow humanity to break the restraints of old nation states, and keep ahead of them. But eventually nation states did catch up, and we see what that has resulted in. I think AI is far too overused a term for statistical modeling and categorization. But creating any tool to "help" people understand each other will only result in its insights being used to target people open/vulnerable to having their opinions changed. And that will result in MORE control. Not less. Don't create a tool until you understand how it will be used against you.

kordless 10y ago
> I think the creation of such a system will be then of us. Not our savior. Absolutely. The intent to create rational transfer of information will result in creating a new type of life that is us, yet is not us. This will likely result in the "end" of us, but that's the nature of things anyway. Nothing is forever, but it sure as hell seems it could have been put off so I didn't have to deal with it.