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54 companies? That seems very inefficient. I like Triplebytes [1] focused approach to hiring engineers. I think they used to interview candidates to assess the

54 companies? That seems very inefficient. I like Triplebytes [1] focused approach to hiring engineers. I think they used to interview candidates to assess their skills rather than depend on whiteboards or resumes. If the candidate passes the interview, they would be connected to relevant companies, take up interviews with the companies and negotiate the offer(s). Now it looks like they changed the process slightly to introduce online coding tests to make it easier to screen more candidates. Edit : As pointed out below, the online coding test is the first step followed by one on one interviews. [1] https://triplebyte.com/ https://triplebyte.com/

pimlottc 10y ago
They still do one-on-one skills interviewing, the online test is just the first step. It seems like a promising approach!
amorphid 10y ago
I think Triplebyte's initial technical screen is kind of lame. It focuses on solving problems that aren't all that interesting to me, and they start a countdown timer before I've even had a chance to read the problem. It feels like I'm competing against a microwave cooking someone else's dinner.
- ammon 10y ago
  I'm sorry you did not like our process! For what it's worth, we've tested a bunch of types of questions, and relatively easy questions answered quickly provide the highest accuracy / time ratio. We also cover a bunch of topics (to give everyone a chance to show their strength), so we don't expect everyone to do well on all the questions.
  - amorphid 10y ago
    Yeah, I can understand that. I think you'll probably discover in the long run that you eliminate a whole bunch of people who might otherwise be good hires. It's kind of like only doing analysis on how your current customers like your product, while completely ignoring potential customers. And maybe that's for the best. It'd certainly better to build a recruiting tool that serves part of the market well vs. serving none of it well. Here are a few things that kept personally me from completing the screening process (which I was checking out because I was a recruiter, and now I'm a developer): - You don't (or didn't) support Elixir, which is what I've primarily been using for the last 12 months, so I spent a few minutes dusting off the "what's the syntax in Ruby" knowlegde - I'm wasn't emotionally invested into applying, as I don't really know who you'll be connecting me with, and if I want to be challenged, I'll continue working on some personal code (which is what I did) - Not having my glasses with me, and a bit of the ol' ADHD, made reading just a bit harder, so the countdown timer was basically reminding me the entire time that I couldn't read fast enough
cyorir 10y ago
He got 14 interviews from 54 companies. As a candidate, that's better than what you can expect from Triplebyte, which apparently only interviews 1/6th of applicants (2000 interviewed out of the 12000 who have applied). http://blog.triplebyte.com/12-000-engineers-evaluated http://blog.triplebyte.com/12-000-engineers-evaluated If you don't make it to the interview phase with Triplebyte, then the process might as well be as opaque to you as any company. You aren't given much information about how well you tested and the reason you weren't selected to interview. It would be great if there were a Triplebyte-like service for those of us in the lower 10,000, but until then it's back to applying to dozens of companies.
- ammon 10y ago
  We suffer from adverse selection bias (as does any online job application). Many companies don't even hire from their online applications for this reason (instead using referrals). The truth is that almost all of the people we don't interview would not have passed (we have a small control group that we always interview, to measure our false negative rate). We do certainly make mistakes (our false negative rate is not 0). But I am proud of our process. It's more open than any other interview I know of. We routinely find awesome self-taught programmers who no other company would interview.
- ryandrake 10y ago
  14 interviews from 54 companies is downright amazing. Better than I've ever seen. I've probably applied to hundreds of companies throughout my life/career and gained interviews at less than 20. Next time I'm looking for a job, 54 companies is going to be the minimum to apply to.

pimlottc 10y ago

They still do one-on-one skills interviewing, the online test is just the first step. It seems like a promising approach!

amorphid 10y ago

I think Triplebyte's initial technical screen is kind of lame. It focuses on solving problems that aren't all that interesting to me, and they start a countdown timer before I've even had a chance to read the problem. It feels like I'm competing against a microwave cooking someone else's dinner.

ammon 10y ago
I'm sorry you did not like our process! For what it's worth, we've tested a bunch of types of questions, and relatively easy questions answered quickly provide the highest accuracy / time ratio. We also cover a bunch of topics (to give everyone a chance to show their strength), so we don't expect everyone to do well on all the questions.
- amorphid 10y ago
  Yeah, I can understand that. I think you'll probably discover in the long run that you eliminate a whole bunch of people who might otherwise be good hires. It's kind of like only doing analysis on how your current customers like your product, while completely ignoring potential customers. And maybe that's for the best. It'd certainly better to build a recruiting tool that serves part of the market well vs. serving none of it well. Here are a few things that kept personally me from completing the screening process (which I was checking out because I was a recruiter, and now I'm a developer): - You don't (or didn't) support Elixir, which is what I've primarily been using for the last 12 months, so I spent a few minutes dusting off the "what's the syntax in Ruby" knowlegde - I'm wasn't emotionally invested into applying, as I don't really know who you'll be connecting me with, and if I want to be challenged, I'll continue working on some personal code (which is what I did) - Not having my glasses with me, and a bit of the ol' ADHD, made reading just a bit harder, so the countdown timer was basically reminding me the entire time that I couldn't read fast enough

cyorir 10y ago

He got 14 interviews from 54 companies. As a candidate, that's better than what you can expect from Triplebyte, which apparently only interviews 1/6th of applicants (2000 interviewed out of the 12000 who have applied). http://blog.triplebyte.com/12-000-engineers-evaluated http://blog.triplebyte.com/12-000-engineers-evaluated If you don't make it to the interview phase with Triplebyte, then the process might as well be as opaque to you as any company. You aren't given much information about how well you tested and the reason you weren't selected to interview. It would be great if there were a Triplebyte-like service for those of us in the lower 10,000, but until then it's back to applying to dozens of companies.

ammon 10y ago
We suffer from adverse selection bias (as does any online job application). Many companies don't even hire from their online applications for this reason (instead using referrals). The truth is that almost all of the people we don't interview would not have passed (we have a small control group that we always interview, to measure our false negative rate). We do certainly make mistakes (our false negative rate is not 0). But I am proud of our process. It's more open than any other interview I know of. We routinely find awesome self-taught programmers who no other company would interview.
ryandrake 10y ago
14 interviews from 54 companies is downright amazing. Better than I've ever seen. I've probably applied to hundreds of companies throughout my life/career and gained interviews at less than 20. Next time I'm looking for a job, 54 companies is going to be the minimum to apply to.