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> Uber will raise prices and no new competitors will be able to find any funding at this point Until Uber has self-driving cars, there's nothing to prevent loc

> Uber will raise prices and no new competitors will be able to find any funding at this point Until Uber has self-driving cars, there's nothing to prevent local competitors from running a few subway ads and getting enough iOS installs to keep prices down. And unlike national competitors, which require hundreds of millions of dollars, local competitors can be run on the cheap. So even if Lyft goes bankrupt, I doubt that will have much impact on prices.

flylib 10y ago
Juno is burning 10's of millions trying to compete on low prices and they are still in NY area only, unlikely local competitors will be able to compete at low prices unless they have a huge war chest which will come from rich founders (Juno) or investors (Uber/Lyft/etc.)
- wickawic 10y ago
  Well low is relative. I think GPs point was that Uber can never have a real monopoly because eventually they have to operate profitably. Once the base price of a ride settles competitors can still come eat their lunch. Heck I took a taxi in Seattle for the same price as an Uber but the driver actually knew where I was going and how to navigate in traffic. Driverless cars would throw a big wench into this however.
  - dx034 10y ago
    And only if Uber is the only one coming up with it. If VW/Mercedes/GM/Ford develop driverless vehicles, anybody can build a service based on it (most likely the manufacturers themselves). The only chance for Uber to survive is to be the first one in that space. I don't see how that can happen with so many companies in advanced development stages.
- Alex3917 10y ago
  Is Juno trying to set themselves up to be a national competitor though, or are they trying to stay local? Given that making a basic app to put dots on a map is basically free, I don't see what stops someone from investing a couple million bucks in hopes of getting a small but good return.
  - flylib 10y ago
    yes they are saying they are going to expand nationally for the last 6 months but you can't expand nationally if you are running out of money (check ride sharing forum's where drivers are starting to report sporadic payments from Juno)

flylib 10y ago

Juno is burning 10's of millions trying to compete on low prices and they are still in NY area only, unlikely local competitors will be able to compete at low prices unless they have a huge war chest which will come from rich founders (Juno) or investors (Uber/Lyft/etc.)

wickawic 10y ago
Well low is relative. I think GPs point was that Uber can never have a real monopoly because eventually they have to operate profitably. Once the base price of a ride settles competitors can still come eat their lunch. Heck I took a taxi in Seattle for the same price as an Uber but the driver actually knew where I was going and how to navigate in traffic. Driverless cars would throw a big wench into this however.
- dx034 10y ago
  And only if Uber is the only one coming up with it. If VW/Mercedes/GM/Ford develop driverless vehicles, anybody can build a service based on it (most likely the manufacturers themselves). The only chance for Uber to survive is to be the first one in that space. I don't see how that can happen with so many companies in advanced development stages.
Alex3917 10y ago
Is Juno trying to set themselves up to be a national competitor though, or are they trying to stay local? Given that making a basic app to put dots on a map is basically free, I don't see what stops someone from investing a couple million bucks in hopes of getting a small but good return.
- flylib 10y ago
  yes they are saying they are going to expand nationally for the last 6 months but you can't expand nationally if you are running out of money (check ride sharing forum's where drivers are starting to report sporadic payments from Juno)