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The Long Tail of the Attica Prison Riot

52 points by DiabloD3 10y ago

EamonnMR 10y ago
Anyone else getting vibrating text in this article on mobile? An entire paragraph is shaking up and down. I'll check it out on desktop later. Edit: Try zooming in and out on the paragraph below "There seemed to be a revolution underway, but, like many revolutions, it would end tragically." chrome on android, can't replicate it on other pages on tmn, just that one.
- soneca 10y ago
  I do. Chrome on Android also. It vibrates whenever one of the larger font quotations (like the one you mention) is at a particular position on the screen.
- andrewwomack 10y ago
  Hey, I'm the publisher of the site. We just replicated the bug, and it sure is weird. Working on a fix. (Open to ideas, though!) Thank you!
  - pacaro 10y ago
    Thanks in advance! I'm experiencing the same problem on iOS. If i keep a finger on the screen and try to scroll gradually as I read, then it jitters. If I just scroll then release, read, scroll then release, etc. it is smooth.
    - mattweinberg 10y ago
      (I'm a developer on the site) Although Andrew (above) can replicate this, I haven't been able to. But I know it's not just you. Are there any other details you can give? Do other stories on the site do the same? What kind of iOS device do you have? Sorry about this! It's the first we've heard of it and I wonder if it's something in this article. EDIT: I just recreated it. It looks like a continually switching class causing the text to re-flow. I'm going to disable that JS temporarily while I figure out why it's flapping. Thanks for reporting it! EDIT 2, 1:23PM Eastern US: I deployed a hotfix. We'll do a more permanent fix on Monday. If anyone else has trouble, let me know.
yestoallthat 10y ago
> As the prisoners collapsed, choking and retching, the police opened fire. Over the next several minutes, officers poured hundreds of rounds of gunfire into the yard, including, a judge later estimated, between 2,349 and 3,132 pellets of buckshot. The prison yard was transformed into a charnel house. The prisoners, who had no firearms, were sitting ducks, as were the hostages that the police had ostensibly come to save. As hundreds of police and corrections officers stormed the prison, they sometimes paused to shoot inmates who were already on the ground or wounded. “Surrender peacefully. You will not be harmed,” a megaphone announced as unarmed prisoners were mowed down. This isn't surreal, this isn't random, and it's also not "man being a beast". Some are. Many more are made so, on purpose. > Behind the blind bestiality of the SA, there often lay a deep hatred and resentment against all those who were socially, intellectually, or physically better off than themselves, and who now, as if in fulfillment of their wildest dreams, were in their power. This resentment, which never died out entirely in the camps, strikes us as a last remnant of humanly understandable feeling. The real horror began, however, when the SS took over the administration of the camps. The old spontaneous bestiality gave way to an absolutely cold and systematic destruction of human bodies, calculated to destroy human dignity; death was avoided or postponed indefinitely. The camps were no longer amusement parks for beasts in human form, that is, for men who really belonged in mental institutions and prisons; the reverse became true: they were turned into "drill grounds," on which perfectly normal men were trained to be full-fledged members of the SS. -- Hannah Arendt, "The Origins of Totalitarianism"
OliverJones 10y ago
The article says, " ... already disintegrating over Vietnam and the Kent State shootings a year earlier. " I sure wish it said "...Jackson State and Kent State shootings..." White lives matter. So do black lives.
- js2 10y ago
  White person here. White lives defacto matter which is why there was never an explicit white lives matter movement. When black lives matter, all lives will matter. Edit: I was unfamiliar with Jackson State and mistook your point.
  - rangibaby 10y ago
    Half white person here. I think that is the same kind of thinking that leads to people saying that minorities can't be racist, or that women can't be sexist. I think all lives matter too.
    - js2 10y ago
      It's not the same kind of thinking. Black lives matter doesn't mean other lives don't. It doesn't mean white lives don't matter or that blue lives don't matter. It's a response to systematic racism. As a white male, I've never had to worry or been bothered by black racism or female sexism because I live in a society where the white male has power. The reality is that this is America today: http://i.imgur.com/zrTnEkW.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zrTnEkW.jpg
      - TheSpiceIsLife 10y ago
        What is that a picture of?
      - adekok 10y ago
        > I live in a society where the white male has power What power do I have as a white male? Please be specific. Don't show how I'm treated better than others, show how I have power. I've never shown up at a job interview unqualified... and been told "Yup, you get the job because of your skin color and your genitals". While there are systemic racial differences in the US, they're not always what you think. Which race has the highest average income? Is that because that race is part of the majority? It's not. So... how come if society is here to keep "white men" in power, that Asian-Americans have the highest average income? Are they the secret power behind the throne? [1] Well, no one on their right mind would say so. Yet people are happy to claim that there's some kind of conspiracy to keep another race in power. I dunno... I've never been contacted and asked to join the conspiracy. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_wage_gap_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_wage_gap_in_the_United_...
crooked-v 10y ago
The header on this site is really annoying with a trackpad. It vanishes with any downward motion and reappears with even the smallest upwards motion, so the tiny upwards "bounce" that some scrolling motions can have makes it keep flickering in and out.
- shabbyrobe 10y ago
  This is becoming far too common. It seems like every good long read I see these days is on a site affected by this problem. Even the tiniest scroll jump causes these things to appear and disappear, moving or obscuring the relevant content underneath. I've been thinking of making a Firefox extension that allows you to whitelist "position: fixed" on a per-site basis, but that won't help much on Mobile Safari!
crooked-v 10y ago
The header on this site is really annoying with a trackpad. It vanishes with any downward motion and reappears with even the smallest upwards motion, so the tiny upwards "bounce" that some scrolling motions can have makes it keep flickering in and out.
onewhonknocks 10y ago
*tale
dzdt 10y ago
Things are not much different today, unfortunately. See e.g. https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/19/nyregion/fishkill-prison-inmate-died-after-fight-with-officers-records-show.html https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/19/nyregion/fishkill-prison-....

52 points by DiabloD3 10y ago

Anyone else getting vibrating text in this article on mobile? An entire paragraph is shaking up and down. I'll check it out on desktop later. Edit: Try zooming in and out on the paragraph below "There seemed to be a revolution underway, but, like many revolutions, it would end tragically." chrome on android, can't replicate it on other pages on tmn, just that one.

soneca 10y ago
I do. Chrome on Android also. It vibrates whenever one of the larger font quotations (like the one you mention) is at a particular position on the screen.
andrewwomack 10y ago
Hey, I'm the publisher of the site. We just replicated the bug, and it sure is weird. Working on a fix. (Open to ideas, though!) Thank you!
- pacaro 10y ago
  Thanks in advance! I'm experiencing the same problem on iOS. If i keep a finger on the screen and try to scroll gradually as I read, then it jitters. If I just scroll then release, read, scroll then release, etc. it is smooth.
  - mattweinberg 10y ago
    (I'm a developer on the site) Although Andrew (above) can replicate this, I haven't been able to. But I know it's not just you. Are there any other details you can give? Do other stories on the site do the same? What kind of iOS device do you have? Sorry about this! It's the first we've heard of it and I wonder if it's something in this article. EDIT: I just recreated it. It looks like a continually switching class causing the text to re-flow. I'm going to disable that JS temporarily while I figure out why it's flapping. Thanks for reporting it! EDIT 2, 1:23PM Eastern US: I deployed a hotfix. We'll do a more permanent fix on Monday. If anyone else has trouble, let me know.

yestoallthat 10y ago

> As the prisoners collapsed, choking and retching, the police opened fire. Over the next several minutes, officers poured hundreds of rounds of gunfire into the yard, including, a judge later estimated, between 2,349 and 3,132 pellets of buckshot. The prison yard was transformed into a charnel house. The prisoners, who had no firearms, were sitting ducks, as were the hostages that the police had ostensibly come to save. As hundreds of police and corrections officers stormed the prison, they sometimes paused to shoot inmates who were already on the ground or wounded. “Surrender peacefully. You will not be harmed,” a megaphone announced as unarmed prisoners were mowed down. This isn't surreal, this isn't random, and it's also not "man being a beast". Some are. Many more are made so, on purpose. > Behind the blind bestiality of the SA, there often lay a deep hatred and resentment against all those who were socially, intellectually, or physically better off than themselves, and who now, as if in fulfillment of their wildest dreams, were in their power. This resentment, which never died out entirely in the camps, strikes us as a last remnant of humanly understandable feeling. The real horror began, however, when the SS took over the administration of the camps. The old spontaneous bestiality gave way to an absolutely cold and systematic destruction of human bodies, calculated to destroy human dignity; death was avoided or postponed indefinitely. The camps were no longer amusement parks for beasts in human form, that is, for men who really belonged in mental institutions and prisons; the reverse became true: they were turned into "drill grounds," on which perfectly normal men were trained to be full-fledged members of the SS. -- Hannah Arendt, "The Origins of Totalitarianism"

OliverJones 10y ago

The article says, " ... already disintegrating over Vietnam and the Kent State shootings a year earlier. " I sure wish it said "...Jackson State and Kent State shootings..." White lives matter. So do black lives.

js2 10y ago
White person here. White lives defacto matter which is why there was never an explicit white lives matter movement. When black lives matter, all lives will matter. Edit: I was unfamiliar with Jackson State and mistook your point.
- rangibaby 10y ago
  Half white person here. I think that is the same kind of thinking that leads to people saying that minorities can't be racist, or that women can't be sexist. I think all lives matter too.
  - js2 10y ago
    It's not the same kind of thinking. Black lives matter doesn't mean other lives don't. It doesn't mean white lives don't matter or that blue lives don't matter. It's a response to systematic racism. As a white male, I've never had to worry or been bothered by black racism or female sexism because I live in a society where the white male has power. The reality is that this is America today: http://i.imgur.com/zrTnEkW.jpg http://i.imgur.com/zrTnEkW.jpg
    - TheSpiceIsLife 10y ago
      What is that a picture of?
    - adekok 10y ago
      > I live in a society where the white male has power What power do I have as a white male? Please be specific. Don't show how I'm treated better than others, show how I have power. I've never shown up at a job interview unqualified... and been told "Yup, you get the job because of your skin color and your genitals". While there are systemic racial differences in the US, they're not always what you think. Which race has the highest average income? Is that because that race is part of the majority? It's not. So... how come if society is here to keep "white men" in power, that Asian-Americans have the highest average income? Are they the secret power behind the throne? [1] Well, no one on their right mind would say so. Yet people are happy to claim that there's some kind of conspiracy to keep another race in power. I dunno... I've never been contacted and asked to join the conspiracy. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_wage_gap_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_wage_gap_in_the_United_...

crooked-v 10y ago

The header on this site is really annoying with a trackpad. It vanishes with any downward motion and reappears with even the smallest upwards motion, so the tiny upwards "bounce" that some scrolling motions can have makes it keep flickering in and out.

shabbyrobe 10y ago
This is becoming far too common. It seems like every good long read I see these days is on a site affected by this problem. Even the tiniest scroll jump causes these things to appear and disappear, moving or obscuring the relevant content underneath. I've been thinking of making a Firefox extension that allows you to whitelist "position: fixed" on a per-site basis, but that won't help much on Mobile Safari!

crooked-v 10y ago

onewhonknocks 10y ago

*tale

dzdt 10y ago

Things are not much different today, unfortunately. See e.g. https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/19/nyregion/fishkill-prison-inmate-died-after-fight-with-officers-records-show.html https://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/19/nyregion/fishkill-prison-....