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I could counterpoint his/her entire comment, but I'll just briefly say that citing the success of certain ethnicities (backgrounds of the CEOs of Microsoft and

by colmvp 10y ago

I could counterpoint his/her entire comment, but I'll just briefly say that citing the success of certain ethnicities (backgrounds of the CEOs of Microsoft and Google) is like implying racism/sexism is over because Obama was President and a woman almost became President.

avasylev 10y ago
CEO is just publicly visible example, but at every level in Microsoft there're Indian, VP, managers, product managers, principal developers, regular developers. I think you can just browse/search Microsoft product managers thru linkedin to verify that. I'd be very surprised to see any bias towards any nationality at MS, given >50% of employees are foreign.
- colmvp 10y ago
  I don't doubt that Microsoft might actively try to counter implicit racism which is evident in their demographics, but I do believe there are stats that show there are clear disparities between number of Asians in professional jobs and number of Asians who end up getting promoted from their positions to C-level positions.
  - j45 10y ago
    There's no doubt "diversity" is corporate bs when it doesn't exist from the top down. Such reflection also shines a light on how unreasonably hard some people, in any group are having to work to ensure organizations reflect society, and the nature of their sacrifices and commitment compared to others.
- j45 10y ago
  The main reason I mentioned the CEO's, is outside of perceived differences or challenges, achieving goals often require becoming a lot better than one probably should have had to. Attitude, curiosity, work ethic, being easy to get along with and work with others go a long way.
j45 10y ago
Respectfully, it's not about counterpointing, or there only being one way to be right. It's more about developing a positive and healthy inner mental and emotional dialogue that allows you to live in a viewpoint of seeing and acting on possibility instead of worshipping doubts to drag ourselves and others down. Innovation, improvement happens by pushing yourself to grow, not finding faults in everything around you and in yourself. No one will be in your corner if you aren't.

by colmvp 10y ago

avasylev 10y ago

CEO is just publicly visible example, but at every level in Microsoft there're Indian, VP, managers, product managers, principal developers, regular developers. I think you can just browse/search Microsoft product managers thru linkedin to verify that. I'd be very surprised to see any bias towards any nationality at MS, given >50% of employees are foreign.

colmvp 10y ago
I don't doubt that Microsoft might actively try to counter implicit racism which is evident in their demographics, but I do believe there are stats that show there are clear disparities between number of Asians in professional jobs and number of Asians who end up getting promoted from their positions to C-level positions.
- j45 10y ago
  There's no doubt "diversity" is corporate bs when it doesn't exist from the top down. Such reflection also shines a light on how unreasonably hard some people, in any group are having to work to ensure organizations reflect society, and the nature of their sacrifices and commitment compared to others.
j45 10y ago
The main reason I mentioned the CEO's, is outside of perceived differences or challenges, achieving goals often require becoming a lot better than one probably should have had to. Attitude, curiosity, work ethic, being easy to get along with and work with others go a long way.

j45 10y ago

Respectfully, it's not about counterpointing, or there only being one way to be right. It's more about developing a positive and healthy inner mental and emotional dialogue that allows you to live in a viewpoint of seeing and acting on possibility instead of worshipping doubts to drag ourselves and others down. Innovation, improvement happens by pushing yourself to grow, not finding faults in everything around you and in yourself. No one will be in your corner if you aren't.