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You think the guys designing prosthetics should be administering SAP systems for UCSF? They have the appropriate skills for this and it's a good use of their t

by dpark 10y ago

You think the guys designing prosthetics should be administering SAP systems for UCSF? They have the appropriate skills for this and it's a good use of their time? I'm not sure what you're even trying to argue about anymore. My comment was specifically addressing the idea that universities should be funding their IT efforts with researchers, which is in general a poor use of research dollars, but especially for a university that literally has no relevant research program or school. You're not even trying to respond to my actual criticism. You're engaging in pedantry and rambling about staph infections instead. > Your lack of imagination makes me hope you're not in charge of anything important. Your incoherent responses and abrasiveness make be fairly confident you are not.

orbitingpluto 10y ago
"You think the guys designing prosthetics should be administering SAP systems for UCSF?" Strawman your favourite argument? Of course I'm not arguing that. I'm arguing that a medical academic institution shouldn't prevent possible avenues of medical research by outsourcing key implementations of health care to the lowest bidder. That includes janitorial, engineering, IT, ... You don't staff janitorial or IT with researchers, but you staff it with people who will be able to work with the researchers. Outsourced IT kills the possibility. Thanks for the janitorial strawman. Keep in mind that doing research with outsourced IT will likely result in the provider manipulating data to provide whatever they think is the desired result from the client. Any research about improving IT in medicine will have zero value. The reason why I said I hope you're not in charge of anything is because your statement quoted below offloads responsibility from those making decisions. It sounds like a strategy for deflecting responsibility and blaming others for your own lack of expertise: "I'm saying that if you start with the claim that "the administration cannot properly value IT", the logical conclusion is outsourcing."

by dpark 10y ago

orbitingpluto 10y ago

"You think the guys designing prosthetics should be administering SAP systems for UCSF?" Strawman your favourite argument? Of course I'm not arguing that. I'm arguing that a medical academic institution shouldn't prevent possible avenues of medical research by outsourcing key implementations of health care to the lowest bidder. That includes janitorial, engineering, IT, ... You don't staff janitorial or IT with researchers, but you staff it with people who will be able to work with the researchers. Outsourced IT kills the possibility. Thanks for the janitorial strawman. Keep in mind that doing research with outsourced IT will likely result in the provider manipulating data to provide whatever they think is the desired result from the client. Any research about improving IT in medicine will have zero value. The reason why I said I hope you're not in charge of anything is because your statement quoted below offloads responsibility from those making decisions. It sounds like a strategy for deflecting responsibility and blaming others for your own lack of expertise: "I'm saying that if you start with the claim that "the administration cannot properly value IT", the logical conclusion is outsourcing."