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I can't tell if you're talking about Microsoft as a whole or E&D specifically. Because you bring up laptops and Bing, I'll assume the former. > Microsoft isn'

I can't tell if you're talking about Microsoft as a whole or E&D specifically. Because you bring up laptops and Bing, I'll assume the former. > Microsoft isn't used to being second fiddle. Hell, look at how they're stagnating in the web browser arena. Microsoft plays second fiddle all the time. Aside from Windows, Office, and (_maybe_) VS, nearly all their products are ranked second (or lower) in popularity. MSN Messenger. Bing. Windows Mobile / CE. Xbox. Windows Server. IIS. SQL Server. > Bing is an also ran that can't even come close to Google's dominance, no matter how much money they throw at consumers with that cashback scheme. I've heard good things about Bing. Claiming they bought all their users is disingenuous. > When the vast majority of users are obsessed with social networking, writing small little text/tweets, bite-size 2D addictive casual games with one-button control, and playing music and youtube videos, how are you going to cash in on that if you're a Microsoft? Try to replicate Zynga and Twitter? Then what? You don't, and you then compare the current financials of Microsoft, Zynga, and Twitter. > Maybe -- and this could be the key -- MS needs to start _aquiring_ technologies instead of trying to reinvent them like they're some garage startup. Microsoft acquires companies _all the time_. It's a common criticism: "Microsoft has never created anything. They've just bought out companies that create things." "Like some garage startup"? Hardly. > Go buy some big sexy new technology, actually ship it (or hell, ship surface/origami/courier/etc.). Whatever criticism Microsoft deserves, failing to ship is hardly among it.

hello_moto 16y ago
Yes, Microsoft is used to play second fiddle. But then again, didn't they clean up (or there were some stuff going on) their Online divisions couple months ago (or even last 1 or 2 years ago)? Once in a while, there will be divisions that would require some changes. Couple years ago, Vista (or the OS div) was the main target. They moved Steven Sinofsky from Office to OS. Once the situation over the OS div is better a bit, then the Online division. They brought up various outsiders if I remember correctly. Some from Yahoo!, not sure if they get anyone from Google (most likely not). Then Bing showed up. Now it's the E&D that got their piece of Ballmer Pie. PS: I'm probably speculating.
- WalterGR 16y ago
  > But then again, didn't they clean up (or there were some stuff going on) their Online divisions couple months ago (or even last 1 or 2 years ago)? I believe so, but I don't recall specifics. > Once in a while, there will be divisions that would require some changes. Couple years ago, Vista (or the OS div) was the main target. They moved Steven Sinofsky from Office to OS. Sure. My original point (in response to you) was that E&D is in the black - not the red - so your vision of Balmer "seeing those red numbers in Excel Spreadsheet almost overflowing whatever the data type in cell G-14, H-15 and K-25" simply doesn't exist. > PS: I'm probably speculating. And I'm trying to bring everyone back to earth. :)
  - hello_moto 16y ago
    With this new tablet product, Courier, it might gone red again for a while.

hello_moto 16y ago

Yes, Microsoft is used to play second fiddle. But then again, didn't they clean up (or there were some stuff going on) their Online divisions couple months ago (or even last 1 or 2 years ago)? Once in a while, there will be divisions that would require some changes. Couple years ago, Vista (or the OS div) was the main target. They moved Steven Sinofsky from Office to OS. Once the situation over the OS div is better a bit, then the Online division. They brought up various outsiders if I remember correctly. Some from Yahoo!, not sure if they get anyone from Google (most likely not). Then Bing showed up. Now it's the E&D that got their piece of Ballmer Pie. PS: I'm probably speculating.

WalterGR 16y ago
> But then again, didn't they clean up (or there were some stuff going on) their Online divisions couple months ago (or even last 1 or 2 years ago)? I believe so, but I don't recall specifics. > Once in a while, there will be divisions that would require some changes. Couple years ago, Vista (or the OS div) was the main target. They moved Steven Sinofsky from Office to OS. Sure. My original point (in response to you) was that E&D is in the black - not the red - so your vision of Balmer "seeing those red numbers in Excel Spreadsheet almost overflowing whatever the data type in cell G-14, H-15 and K-25" simply doesn't exist. > PS: I'm probably speculating. And I'm trying to bring everyone back to earth. :)
- hello_moto 16y ago
  With this new tablet product, Courier, it might gone red again for a while.