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Paper trail? What are you hiding citizen? Nothing to hide, nothing to fear.

by huffmsa 10y ago

icantdrive55 10y ago
He buys a pack of cigarettes for someone else, and happens to rack up a huge medical bill. The Insurance company might have a reason to disavow him? (Trump and disavow?) He buys a 12 pack, and his kid steals it, and gets into an accident causing front page news. His kid lies, and says dad gave me the beer. (He is screwed.) He goes onto physical therapy office. One of the legitimate places that, but sounds weird--like the power of hands--whatever. The wife sees the bill and it always stays in the back of her mind forever. He buys a pressure cooker, and is suddenly profiled? He pays out of packet for a CAT scan because he's a hypochondriac, and things he has a brain tumor. He is forced to claim he did have a CAT scan on all those pesky insurance forms. (Happened to me.) Yea some of these are far fetched, but not being able to buy groceries last nights wasen't. My slick new chipped bank card was not recognized by the machine. I usually carry a c-note, but used it the following week because of bank card problems. I guess the McCarty Era is not taught in school anymore? So no--I don't want a paper trail either. Hell Safeway knows my diet better than me. (Yes--different card.)
- a_t48 10y ago
  The person who you replied to was speaking satirically.
Jemmeh 10y ago
"Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say." -Edward Snowden
- gyey 10y ago
  To be the devil's advocate here, what situation can you imagine that would warrant a person to legitimately hide information or keep secrets from their own government?
  - Joakal 10y ago
    Consider that what the government knows could become public due to leaks, changes of government (election, war), third party access, etc. I certainly do not want my bank passwords to be with the government. My bank accounts can be wiped out. Hence I do not like my communication recorded at all for this reason.
  - coding123 10y ago
    Not everything that is a law should be. Why is marijuana even illegal? Can ANYONE even answer that in the context of alcohol being legal? So yes, for this any many other reasons, it's good to keep secrets from the government. By the way, pot is just an example, you can literally dig millions of unjust laws up if you looked, we're all just conditioned to OBEY.
    - tomohawk 10y ago
      Alcohol is involved in a very large number of deaths in the US every year. A very large proportion of suicides, automobile deaths, shooting deaths, diabetes deaths, and so on are directly caused by alcohol consumption. It's not like we need more people running around with impaired decision making ability.
    - eternalban 10y ago
      Because they have different psychological effects. One makes you think, the other makes you stupid.
  - MaulingMonkey 10y ago
    * Your government isn't a utopia, and thus has corruption * Your government won't adequately protect collected information from your stalker * Your stalker has friends who work for the government * Your stalker works for the government * You're gay, and live in the UAE, where your outing may result in your death * You're gay, and live in the USA, where your outing may result in your death * Your government has too many laws to count - nevermind read - and can find a violation of them for anyone, given enough time * Your government won't adequately protect collected information from other governments * Your government won't adequately protect collected information from your competitors * Your government won't adequately protect collected information from identity thieves
lucio 10y ago
You miss the /s at the end. There are some literal people around here /s
known 10y ago
Privacy != Secrecy

Paper trail? What are you hiding citizen? Nothing to hide, nothing to fear.

by huffmsa 10y ago

Paper trail? What are you hiding citizen? Nothing to hide, nothing to fear.

He buys a pack of cigarettes for someone else, and happens to rack up a huge medical bill. The Insurance company might have a reason to disavow him? (Trump and disavow?) He buys a 12 pack, and his kid steals it, and gets into an accident causing front page news. His kid lies, and says dad gave me the beer. (He is screwed.) He goes onto physical therapy office. One of the legitimate places that, but sounds weird--like the power of hands--whatever. The wife sees the bill and it always stays in the back of her mind forever. He buys a pressure cooker, and is suddenly profiled? He pays out of packet for a CAT scan because he's a hypochondriac, and things he has a brain tumor. He is forced to claim he did have a CAT scan on all those pesky insurance forms. (Happened to me.) Yea some of these are far fetched, but not being able to buy groceries last nights wasen't. My slick new chipped bank card was not recognized by the machine. I usually carry a c-note, but used it the following week because of bank card problems. I guess the McCarty Era is not taught in school anymore? So no--I don't want a paper trail either. Hell Safeway knows my diet better than me. (Yes--different card.)

a_t48 10y ago
The person who you replied to was speaking satirically.

Jemmeh 10y ago

"Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say." -Edward Snowden

gyey 10y ago
To be the devil's advocate here, what situation can you imagine that would warrant a person to legitimately hide information or keep secrets from their own government?
- Joakal 10y ago
  Consider that what the government knows could become public due to leaks, changes of government (election, war), third party access, etc. I certainly do not want my bank passwords to be with the government. My bank accounts can be wiped out. Hence I do not like my communication recorded at all for this reason.
- coding123 10y ago
  Not everything that is a law should be. Why is marijuana even illegal? Can ANYONE even answer that in the context of alcohol being legal? So yes, for this any many other reasons, it's good to keep secrets from the government. By the way, pot is just an example, you can literally dig millions of unjust laws up if you looked, we're all just conditioned to OBEY.
  - tomohawk 10y ago
    Alcohol is involved in a very large number of deaths in the US every year. A very large proportion of suicides, automobile deaths, shooting deaths, diabetes deaths, and so on are directly caused by alcohol consumption. It's not like we need more people running around with impaired decision making ability.
  - eternalban 10y ago
    Because they have different psychological effects. One makes you think, the other makes you stupid.
- MaulingMonkey 10y ago
  * Your government isn't a utopia, and thus has corruption * Your government won't adequately protect collected information from your stalker * Your stalker has friends who work for the government * Your stalker works for the government * You're gay, and live in the UAE, where your outing may result in your death * You're gay, and live in the USA, where your outing may result in your death * Your government has too many laws to count - nevermind read - and can find a violation of them for anyone, given enough time * Your government won't adequately protect collected information from other governments * Your government won't adequately protect collected information from your competitors * Your government won't adequately protect collected information from identity thieves

lucio 10y ago

You miss the /s at the end. There are some literal people around here /s

known 10y ago

Privacy != Secrecy