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agreed, it's surprisingly hard to get your head around initially. minikube helps me personally.

by AndyNemmity 10y ago

crb 10y ago
I work on a team who wants to help make this easier. What are the concepts that you think are the most complex?
- mhluongo 10y ago
  For me, it's mostly the number of concepts and the fact that they need to be known upfront. None of them are particularly difficult, but I've done ops for a bit and gone from manual sysadmin on bare metal to Puppet to Chef to Salt... then when we started playing with docker, there's the initial learning curve, then a slew of orchestration options to consider. I'm exhausted keeping up with devops tools. What I want is a better way to learn hands-on or as I go. Not sure exactly what that looks like.
  - AndyNemmity 10y ago
    Nothing reminds you how little you actually know when you have to pick up docker/k8s for the first time, and realize that it's a long journey to understand every nuance you need to get things done.
markdog12 10y ago
Started using minikube and kompose just yesterday. They're really nice tools. I'm stuck on the fact that minikube doesn't seem to use my vpn connection (fail when attempting to link to library dependencies over vpn).
- gkop 10y ago
  That sounds annoying. Could it be something with the configuration in your virtualization tool?
  - markdog12 10y ago
    Could be, I'm using xhyve, but haven't messesd with any configuration myself.
- shykes 10y ago
  You can install Docker for Mac, which supports VPN integration out of the box, then install kubernetes on top of that. I heard it works great. https://docker.com/mac https://docker.com/mac
  - markdog12 10y ago
    Yes, I've been using Docker for Mac since beta and it does indeed work fine with VPN. It's when I'm using Docker inside minikube where it fails. I didn't realize installing k8 and using with Docker for Mac was straightforward, I'll give it a try. Btw, thx for such an incredible tool!

agreed, it's surprisingly hard to get your head around initially. minikube helps me personally.

crb 10y ago

I work on a team who wants to help make this easier. What are the concepts that you think are the most complex?

mhluongo 10y ago
For me, it's mostly the number of concepts and the fact that they need to be known upfront. None of them are particularly difficult, but I've done ops for a bit and gone from manual sysadmin on bare metal to Puppet to Chef to Salt... then when we started playing with docker, there's the initial learning curve, then a slew of orchestration options to consider. I'm exhausted keeping up with devops tools. What I want is a better way to learn hands-on or as I go. Not sure exactly what that looks like.
- AndyNemmity 10y ago
  Nothing reminds you how little you actually know when you have to pick up docker/k8s for the first time, and realize that it's a long journey to understand every nuance you need to get things done.

markdog12 10y ago

Started using minikube and kompose just yesterday. They're really nice tools. I'm stuck on the fact that minikube doesn't seem to use my vpn connection (fail when attempting to link to library dependencies over vpn).

gkop 10y ago
That sounds annoying. Could it be something with the configuration in your virtualization tool?
- markdog12 10y ago
  Could be, I'm using xhyve, but haven't messesd with any configuration myself.
shykes 10y ago
You can install Docker for Mac, which supports VPN integration out of the box, then install kubernetes on top of that. I heard it works great. https://docker.com/mac https://docker.com/mac
- markdog12 10y ago
  Yes, I've been using Docker for Mac since beta and it does indeed work fine with VPN. It's when I'm using Docker inside minikube where it fails. I didn't realize installing k8 and using with Docker for Mac was straightforward, I'll give it a try. Btw, thx for such an incredible tool!