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Engineer says Uber hired firm to investigate her

36 points by scandox 10y ago

holydude 10y ago
Uber is a despisable company but to think the other big corps are not acting the same would be foolish. Uber is just not pretending that much as the others. I am very scared of the future (which is already here) of mega corps
- linuxkerneldev 10y ago
  > I am very scared of the future (which is already here) of mega corps Mega corps, to me are just continuations of previous entities like the Dutch and Anglo East India Companies which in their heyday exhibited much of the same activities (trying to control journalists, controlling politicians/legislators, moving perpetrators of crimes around in their organizations). Yes, I've been watching Taboo, a very interesting TV series about the Anglo East India Company. Then before them, were the large religious organizations. Some even to this day, still exhibit this pattern of investigating victims to find dirt or investigating journalists for the same reason. Example from last week, http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3462087/Catholic-Church-paid-private-investigator-dig-dirt-victims-pedophile-Christian-Brother-Edward-Dowlan-told-lawyers-witnesses-easily-torn-court.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3462087/Catholic-Chu...
  - scandox 10y ago
    I have to agree. This is business as usual. It is also our common business to act as a check on this kind of behaviour.
  - jontro 10y ago
    I wouldn't take Taboo as a historic account of what the east india company did. It's entertainment and not meant to be factually correct. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/10743407/BBC-to-break-Taboo-with-inaccurate-portrayal-of-East-India-Company.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/10743407/B...
    - linuxkerneldev 10y ago
      I agree, I didn't intend to imply that it was in anyway historically accurate. However, it does communicate some of how the EIC operated at that time.
- mulmen 10y ago
  What you claim is very concerning and I do not wish to discount it but do you have any evidence?
facepalm 10y ago
Why is this wrong - or is it? Seems like a pretty normal reaction to being attacked? Is it wrong because a woman's statements always have to be believed?
- NinjaViking 10y ago
  Some of her claims are objectively verifiable - e.g. women dropping from 25% to 3% of the SRE teams. That sounds like a serious, systematic problem - not a coincidence.
  - facepalm 10y ago
    I'm not saying she is wrong, just asking why is it wrong to investigate her claims? Although the numbers you cite are not really evidence of a problem imo - there could be any number of reasons. Assuming sexism is the only explanation is heavily biased.
scandox 10y ago
What precisely is this a duplication of? I searched the link and didn't see it.
- corin_ 10y ago
  Not a dupe of the specific link, just the story: 110 comments @ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13775624 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13775624
- WayneBro 10y ago
  hckrnews.com lets you browse the list of submitted stories more easily than news.ycombinator.com. You can't really be blamed for not knowing that something was on news.ycombinator.com since looking at the list there is slow and painful. To find yesterday's story, I had to scroll down the page and click "More" about 6 or 7 times and on each listing, I had to hit F3 (find) to search for Uber. This site doesn't even have a proper search function. So, don't even worry about it because how can anybody expect you to know?

36 points by scandox 10y ago

Uber is a despisable company but to think the other big corps are not acting the same would be foolish. Uber is just not pretending that much as the others. I am very scared of the future (which is already here) of mega corps

linuxkerneldev 10y ago
> I am very scared of the future (which is already here) of mega corps Mega corps, to me are just continuations of previous entities like the Dutch and Anglo East India Companies which in their heyday exhibited much of the same activities (trying to control journalists, controlling politicians/legislators, moving perpetrators of crimes around in their organizations). Yes, I've been watching Taboo, a very interesting TV series about the Anglo East India Company. Then before them, were the large religious organizations. Some even to this day, still exhibit this pattern of investigating victims to find dirt or investigating journalists for the same reason. Example from last week, http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3462087/Catholic-Church-paid-private-investigator-dig-dirt-victims-pedophile-Christian-Brother-Edward-Dowlan-told-lawyers-witnesses-easily-torn-court.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3462087/Catholic-Chu...
- scandox 10y ago
  I have to agree. This is business as usual. It is also our common business to act as a check on this kind of behaviour.
- jontro 10y ago
  I wouldn't take Taboo as a historic account of what the east india company did. It's entertainment and not meant to be factually correct. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/10743407/BBC-to-break-Taboo-with-inaccurate-portrayal-of-East-India-Company.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/10743407/B...
  - linuxkerneldev 10y ago
    I agree, I didn't intend to imply that it was in anyway historically accurate. However, it does communicate some of how the EIC operated at that time.
mulmen 10y ago
What you claim is very concerning and I do not wish to discount it but do you have any evidence?

facepalm 10y ago

Why is this wrong - or is it? Seems like a pretty normal reaction to being attacked? Is it wrong because a woman's statements always have to be believed?

NinjaViking 10y ago
Some of her claims are objectively verifiable - e.g. women dropping from 25% to 3% of the SRE teams. That sounds like a serious, systematic problem - not a coincidence.
- facepalm 10y ago
  I'm not saying she is wrong, just asking why is it wrong to investigate her claims? Although the numbers you cite are not really evidence of a problem imo - there could be any number of reasons. Assuming sexism is the only explanation is heavily biased.

scandox 10y ago

What precisely is this a duplication of? I searched the link and didn't see it.

corin_ 10y ago
Not a dupe of the specific link, just the story: 110 comments @ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13775624 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13775624
WayneBro 10y ago
hckrnews.com lets you browse the list of submitted stories more easily than news.ycombinator.com. You can't really be blamed for not knowing that something was on news.ycombinator.com since looking at the list there is slow and painful. To find yesterday's story, I had to scroll down the page and click "More" about 6 or 7 times and on each listing, I had to hit F3 (find) to search for Uber. This site doesn't even have a proper search function. So, don't even worry about it because how can anybody expect you to know?