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What OS would be analogous to the Honda in your example? OpenBSD? Plan9? Not Linux, surely. That would be more like the Suzuki, but it used to be an older bike
by mastax 10y ago
What OS would be analogous to the Honda in your example? OpenBSD? Plan9?
Not Linux, surely. That would be more like the Suzuki, but it used to be an older bike so they left the carburetor in there and next year someone will add an electric motor too.
- eikenberry 10y agoAny free software OS can meet his requirements as they all are transparent to anyone with the time to learn, just like the older bikes. The problem with modern bikes is that all the advanced tech is proprietary and you have no way of understanding it or tinkering with it. IMO you can take any modern distro and strip it down to something understandable. It just takes some time to learn how to strip it down and how what's left works (and this is ongoing, as things are always changing). I'm not saying it's trivial, but neither is learning how to rebuild a motorcycle.
- nickbauman 10y agoExcellent extension to the original analogy.
- SFJulie 10y agoJust remove systemd that is looking like an electronic injection that now requires 4Gb of RAM and a full OS to work and screaming for more.
- moosingin3space 10y agoI don't normally get into these, but this is blatantly false, I'm running systemd on multiple older/smaller computers like an OG Raspberry Pi and an old netbook, and I don't even notice its memory consumption.
- tomc1985 10y agoWe run systemd on 512mb celerons no problem...
- voltagex_ 10y agoI'm sad that 512mb is now considered a small amount. I've got a couple of systems in my drawer that have <128mb.
- lightedman 10y agoI still have my 75 MHz Pentium 12MB EDO RAM laptop running Windows 95 and holding my old BBS sitting in my drawer. Battery is shot but plug it in and it still works.
- AsyncAwait 10y agosystemd works fine even on the RPi.
- eikenberry 10y agoAll systemd related processes (dbus, systemd-*, init, etc) running on my system are using < 25Mb of memory. So that is a bit excessive, even if exaggerating for effect.
- fao_ 10y agoIt shouldn't even need that much though. All PID 1 should do is load the rest of the system.
- vram22 10y ago>IMO you can take any modern distro and strip it down to something understandable. Or strip it up, so to speak, or rather, build it up. Referring to Linux From Scratch. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_From_Scratch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_From_Scratch http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
- nickbauman 10y agoI've used OpenBSD in the past and found it much simpler than Linux. But didn't always support what I needed to do. These days I'm doing less but doing it better.
- eatonphil 10y ago> These days I'm doing less but doing it better. On Linux or OpenBSD?
- nickbauman 10y agoBoth
- busterarm 10y agoPretty sure he means OpenBSD and I'm in the same boat. Also, Erlang and Elixir run out of the box on it, so it's suitable for nearly all of my personal projects.
- cassowary 10y agoI've always found the problem with alt os's is that I have to pick my device to match the OS. I just want a small but adequately powerful laptop, so Linux is my only real choice.