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There's such a problem with immaturity in tech. It's frustrating because it creates barriers to learning from others. No self-respecting person is going to want

There's such a problem with immaturity in tech. It's frustrating because it creates barriers to learning from others. No self-respecting person is going to want to learn from someone who has a "holier than thou" or "I'm a rockstar" mindset.

forgotpwtomain 10y ago
> There's such a problem with immaturity in tech. It's frustrating because it creates barriers to learning from others. No self-respecting person is going to want to learn from someone who has a "holier than thou" or "I'm a rockstar" mindset. You wouldn't consider it to be immature to not do the right thing just because it was communicated in an unpleasant way that a 'self-respecting person' should have disdain for? I'm not talking about this particular article or defending immaturity, - I just don't see how your position is any better; more so it's just as unhumble as the 'rockstar position' since you would apparently be willing to write worse code just to avoid learning from someone that's an asshole.
mixedCase 10y ago
Contrary to your beliefs, one can have both self-respect and a sense of humor.
- lojack 10y ago
  It's hard to believe this came from a place of humor after reading the otherwise dry article.
  - mixedCase 10y ago
    It's your prerogative to follow trends to determine what you find worthy of your time or not, but it's not a good thing to suggest that anyone that tolerates that type of language better than you do or even enjoys it, lacks self respect. A lot of people find that cockiness funny and find the informality welcoming. And many of those tend to find cold formality, fake humility or lack of self-confidence as signs of something being boring, uninteresting or outright creepy. EDIT: Comment was edited, original: It's hard to believe this came from a place of humor after reading the otherwise dry article. The article was otherwise fairly interesting, but that certainly left a sour taste in my mouth. He's lucky I read past the first paragraph, if it wasn't so prominent on HN I probably wouldn't have bothered listening to anything he had to say.
    - pharrington 10y ago
      I guarantee you would not find it funny if I called you a cunt. Remember none of the rest of the article even remotely matches the tone of the sentences in question, and the content larges comes from a place of ignorance.
      - rwallace 10y ago
        Actually there have been a couple of times when people called me a cunt and it was funny in context. Now granted, whether this article is that kind of context, is a different question.
    - lojack 10y ago
      That's fair. I'll admit that he may be writing to an audience very different than myself. The edit was because I only ended up scanning what I intended on reading and felt the second part of my criticism overly harsh.

forgotpwtomain 10y ago

> There's such a problem with immaturity in tech. It's frustrating because it creates barriers to learning from others. No self-respecting person is going to want to learn from someone who has a "holier than thou" or "I'm a rockstar" mindset. You wouldn't consider it to be immature to not do the right thing just because it was communicated in an unpleasant way that a 'self-respecting person' should have disdain for? I'm not talking about this particular article or defending immaturity, - I just don't see how your position is any better; more so it's just as unhumble as the 'rockstar position' since you would apparently be willing to write worse code just to avoid learning from someone that's an asshole.

mixedCase 10y ago

Contrary to your beliefs, one can have both self-respect and a sense of humor.

lojack 10y ago
It's hard to believe this came from a place of humor after reading the otherwise dry article.
- mixedCase 10y ago
  It's your prerogative to follow trends to determine what you find worthy of your time or not, but it's not a good thing to suggest that anyone that tolerates that type of language better than you do or even enjoys it, lacks self respect. A lot of people find that cockiness funny and find the informality welcoming. And many of those tend to find cold formality, fake humility or lack of self-confidence as signs of something being boring, uninteresting or outright creepy. EDIT: Comment was edited, original: It's hard to believe this came from a place of humor after reading the otherwise dry article. The article was otherwise fairly interesting, but that certainly left a sour taste in my mouth. He's lucky I read past the first paragraph, if it wasn't so prominent on HN I probably wouldn't have bothered listening to anything he had to say.
  - pharrington 10y ago
    I guarantee you would not find it funny if I called you a cunt. Remember none of the rest of the article even remotely matches the tone of the sentences in question, and the content larges comes from a place of ignorance.
    - rwallace 10y ago
      Actually there have been a couple of times when people called me a cunt and it was funny in context. Now granted, whether this article is that kind of context, is a different question.
  - lojack 10y ago
    That's fair. I'll admit that he may be writing to an audience very different than myself. The edit was because I only ended up scanning what I intended on reading and felt the second part of my criticism overly harsh.