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Uber's opponents also have a history of atrocious behavior. I could cite numerous assaults against Uber drivers by taxi drivers, unfair lobbying of politicians,

by arkona 10y ago

Uber's opponents also have a history of atrocious behavior. I could cite numerous assaults against Uber drivers by taxi drivers, unfair lobbying of politicians, slander and hit pieces by so-called journalists etc. Whether we are in a court of law or not, the burden of proof must remain on the accuser. So far, Susan Fowler has provided no proof. There is no tape, no email, no corroboration by other witnesses. Are we just supposed to take her word for it and sharpen our pitchforks?

crispyambulance 10y ago
"Pitchforks" is a bit melodramatic. But basically, nothing which Fowler has said seems suspicious or in any way promoting a malicious agenda. Her blog post was straightforward and referred to events, people and communications which, I expect, can be referenced by the UBER HR department and I hope that she has retained the evidence if she needs it to protect herself. That seems perfectly reasonable.
- arkona 10y ago
  Yes, let's hope she has retained the evidence and she shows some of it. > nothing which Fowler has said seems suspicious or in any way promoting a malicious agenda. It is suspicious that considering the number of people involved in this alleged systematic abuse, no one has stepped forward to corroborate her claims. The leather jackets story also strikes me as very far-fetched and a little incredible to believe (a company like Uber wouldn't care about the cost of 6 extra jackets and wouldn't take the PR risk of pulling shit like that). > "Pitchforks" is a bit melodramatic. Hashtag #DeleteUber is exactly what the proverbial pitchforks look like in 2017.
  - zaphar 10y ago
    Re: the leather jackets, I think you might be underestimating the ability of people to be simultaneously stubborn and incompetent. I don't find that story to be at all unbelievable.
  - danso 10y ago
    > The leather jackets story also strikes me as very far-fetched and a little incredible to believe (a company like Uber wouldn't care about the cost of 6 extra jackets and wouldn't take the PR risk of pulling shit like that). I don't see why we should assume that the Uber bureaucracy is wise and level-headed in decisions big and small, and that Susan Fowler would risk making up such a stupid and easily disprovable detail after alleging far more serious claims.

by arkona 10y ago

crispyambulance 10y ago

"Pitchforks" is a bit melodramatic. But basically, nothing which Fowler has said seems suspicious or in any way promoting a malicious agenda. Her blog post was straightforward and referred to events, people and communications which, I expect, can be referenced by the UBER HR department and I hope that she has retained the evidence if she needs it to protect herself. That seems perfectly reasonable.

arkona 10y ago
Yes, let's hope she has retained the evidence and she shows some of it. > nothing which Fowler has said seems suspicious or in any way promoting a malicious agenda. It is suspicious that considering the number of people involved in this alleged systematic abuse, no one has stepped forward to corroborate her claims. The leather jackets story also strikes me as very far-fetched and a little incredible to believe (a company like Uber wouldn't care about the cost of 6 extra jackets and wouldn't take the PR risk of pulling shit like that). > "Pitchforks" is a bit melodramatic. Hashtag #DeleteUber is exactly what the proverbial pitchforks look like in 2017.
- zaphar 10y ago
  Re: the leather jackets, I think you might be underestimating the ability of people to be simultaneously stubborn and incompetent. I don't find that story to be at all unbelievable.
- danso 10y ago
  > The leather jackets story also strikes me as very far-fetched and a little incredible to believe (a company like Uber wouldn't care about the cost of 6 extra jackets and wouldn't take the PR risk of pulling shit like that). I don't see why we should assume that the Uber bureaucracy is wise and level-headed in decisions big and small, and that Susan Fowler would risk making up such a stupid and easily disprovable detail after alleging far more serious claims.