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I'm nearly sold out [1] so I don't see a problem selling this. Far manager is command-line only. 24% of my visitors are on Mac, Windows is 34% - hardly 1/10. [

I'm nearly sold out [1] so I don't see a problem selling this. Far manager is command-line only. 24% of my visitors are on Mac, Windows is 34% - hardly 1/10. [1]: https://fman.io/buy https://fman.io/buy

huhtenberg 10y ago
> I'm nearly sold out Can I ask what your sales goals/expectations are? Being "sold out" on software licenses certainly looks like a marketing trick rather than a meaningful demand quantifier. > 24% of my visitors are on Mac, Windows is 34% - hardly 1/10 The 1/10 is the actual rate of Mac to Windows desktop shares. The fact that you are getting 24/34 simply means that you are either not reaching Windows audience or the product doesn't resonate with it.
- mherrmann 10y ago
  Re "sold out": I explained this in other comments [1], [2]. I believe more and more people are using Macs, especially among my (narrowest) target audience (programmers). That's why I'm seeing ratios different from the average. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13777696 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13777696 [2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13778808 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13778808
orclev 10y ago
Just for some statistics, I just purchased it but the main selling point for me is cross platform. I use Windows/Linux at home and Mac at work, so a tool that works on all of them is a real boon to me. This way I can customize and use a single tool and use it no matter where I am. Same reason I purchased a copy of Sublime Text.
- zerr 10y ago
  Is it electron based?
  - mherrmann 10y ago
    If you mean fman then no: I thought about this long and hard but startup speed is crucial and Electron just doesn't cut it. It's based on PyQt. I wrote a blog post about this: https://fman.io/blog/picking-technologies-for-a-desktop-app-in-2016/ https://fman.io/blog/picking-technologies-for-a-desktop-app-...
    - zellyn 10y ago
      Just FYI, Go has a (currently experimental, linux-only) plugin mechanism now. Of course, it's not cross-platform… yet.
    - zerr 10y ago
      Good to hear that... It would have been even better if it was C++ Qt based.
      - srssays 10y ago
        Congratulations! You exemplify the term "pathological customer"!
        zerr 10y ago
        Is this a new name for someone who wants to avoid a bloatware?
        srssays 10y ago
        I can understand why people don't like Electron, but what's wrong with Python?
    - Jare 10y ago
      I see the Windows version is a 1MB download and the Mac & Linux are 21MB, so I was surprised to ready Python and Qt are involved. I take it the Windows setup is a downloader?
jmcdiesel 10y ago
How are you "sold out" of a digital license? Sounds like a very Nintendo-esque intential shortage to drive demand. Not saying its true, but it was my first thought, as well as 5 of the people in the slack room i shared the link in... all of which went from "ok, lets give this guy money" to "... nah... this doesnt feel right, now..."
- mherrmann 10y ago
  It's a good question - I already explained this here in a comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13777696 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13777696
  - jmcdiesel 10y ago
    You really haven't answered it, though. It's very nonsensical. If you want to see "who's in" and develop for your paying customers, then should you not let people become paying customers so you can develop for them? Your logic seems to work if you were not allowing trials, but only paying... THEN you would have only paying customers... its your gig, but I think its been a while since i've seen something this strange in software... and its telling that you're having to post the link to your answer so often in these comments. It simply makes no sense, and seems to be serving to drive people away or make them doubt your intentions.
    - mherrmann 10y ago
      Sorry you find it so disturbing. Especially since you said in another comment that being able to pay for a piece of software makes it appealing to you. I think that's cool because I'm not a big fan of freeloaders. I didn't think fman would be so successful here. I believed that if I had told people "buy this whenever you feel like it", then they simply wouldn't have bought. At least that would be what I would do. Another reason is that I want to provide paying users with great support, want to ask "so what would you like implemented" etc., and I don't have the resources to do that for too many people. I hope it makes more sense now... :/

huhtenberg 10y ago

> I'm nearly sold out Can I ask what your sales goals/expectations are? Being "sold out" on software licenses certainly looks like a marketing trick rather than a meaningful demand quantifier. > 24% of my visitors are on Mac, Windows is 34% - hardly 1/10 The 1/10 is the actual rate of Mac to Windows desktop shares. The fact that you are getting 24/34 simply means that you are either not reaching Windows audience or the product doesn't resonate with it.

mherrmann 10y ago
Re "sold out": I explained this in other comments [1], [2]. I believe more and more people are using Macs, especially among my (narrowest) target audience (programmers). That's why I'm seeing ratios different from the average. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13777696 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13777696 [2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13778808 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13778808

orclev 10y ago

Just for some statistics, I just purchased it but the main selling point for me is cross platform. I use Windows/Linux at home and Mac at work, so a tool that works on all of them is a real boon to me. This way I can customize and use a single tool and use it no matter where I am. Same reason I purchased a copy of Sublime Text.

zerr 10y ago
Is it electron based?
- mherrmann 10y ago
  If you mean fman then no: I thought about this long and hard but startup speed is crucial and Electron just doesn't cut it. It's based on PyQt. I wrote a blog post about this: https://fman.io/blog/picking-technologies-for-a-desktop-app-in-2016/ https://fman.io/blog/picking-technologies-for-a-desktop-app-...
  - zellyn 10y ago
    Just FYI, Go has a (currently experimental, linux-only) plugin mechanism now. Of course, it's not cross-platform… yet.
  - zerr 10y ago
    Good to hear that... It would have been even better if it was C++ Qt based.
    - srssays 10y ago
      Congratulations! You exemplify the term "pathological customer"!
      - zerr 10y ago
        Is this a new name for someone who wants to avoid a bloatware?
        srssays 10y ago
        I can understand why people don't like Electron, but what's wrong with Python?
  - Jare 10y ago
    I see the Windows version is a 1MB download and the Mac & Linux are 21MB, so I was surprised to ready Python and Qt are involved. I take it the Windows setup is a downloader?

jmcdiesel 10y ago

How are you "sold out" of a digital license? Sounds like a very Nintendo-esque intential shortage to drive demand. Not saying its true, but it was my first thought, as well as 5 of the people in the slack room i shared the link in... all of which went from "ok, lets give this guy money" to "... nah... this doesnt feel right, now..."

mherrmann 10y ago
It's a good question - I already explained this here in a comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13777696 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13777696
- jmcdiesel 10y ago
  You really haven't answered it, though. It's very nonsensical. If you want to see "who's in" and develop for your paying customers, then should you not let people become paying customers so you can develop for them? Your logic seems to work if you were not allowing trials, but only paying... THEN you would have only paying customers... its your gig, but I think its been a while since i've seen something this strange in software... and its telling that you're having to post the link to your answer so often in these comments. It simply makes no sense, and seems to be serving to drive people away or make them doubt your intentions.
  - mherrmann 10y ago
    Sorry you find it so disturbing. Especially since you said in another comment that being able to pay for a piece of software makes it appealing to you. I think that's cool because I'm not a big fan of freeloaders. I didn't think fman would be so successful here. I believed that if I had told people "buy this whenever you feel like it", then they simply wouldn't have bought. At least that would be what I would do. Another reason is that I want to provide paying users with great support, want to ask "so what would you like implemented" etc., and I don't have the resources to do that for too many people. I hope it makes more sense now... :/