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I am quite excited about Perl 6 features (not a fan of the syntax though ... coming from Python). While I enjoy Python, I would actually consider using Perl 6 b

by prog 16y ago

I am quite excited about Perl 6 features (not a fan of the syntax though ... coming from Python). While I enjoy Python, I would actually consider using Perl 6 because of features like macros, regex etc. I am not sure if Perl 6 has TCO. However, I would be a little bit concerned about using Perl 6 (rakudo) in any sort of production system before say 2013 or so considering that Parrot has just started to add some critical pieces[1] like JIT and threads. I suppose based on the interview Perl 6.1 would coincide with that. [1] http://wknight8111.blogspot.com/2010/05/fitness-of-parrot-as-target-platform.html http://wknight8111.blogspot.com/2010/05/fitness-of-parrot-as...

chromatic 16y ago
I am not sure if Perl 6 has TCO. It does. I would be a little bit concerned about using Perl 6 (rakudo) in any sort of production system before say 2013 or so considering that Parrot has just started to add some critical pieces[1] like JIT and threads. Why? Do you use Python or Ruby or PHP now?
- prog 16y ago
  > Why? Do you use Python or Ruby or PHP now? Don't get me wrong. I like Parrot. Its just that IMO complex pieces like JIT, threads and GC take some time to stabilize. So while I am all for Perl 6 being on Parrot and Parrot seems to be quite a feature rich VM I would want to see it used in the field for at least a year before I use it for a critical application. For the same reason, I would probably pick up the JIT/unladen-swallow version of CPython (whenever it comes out) only about a year or so of being out. At the moment I use Python quite a bit and have started to use Ruby sometimes. No PHP. Perl 6 and Parrot appeal to me because of their feature set. As for the syntax, I prefer Python syntax much more than Perl 5/6 but thats subjective. I would very much want to try out Perl 6 as it brings a lot of good stuff to the table, I think syntax would be a small price to pay for those features.
  - chromatic 16y ago
    You don't have to use concurrency or JIT in Rakudo Perl 6 now. These systems do take a while to stabilize, but they're not requirements for any Perl 6 applications. As for the GC, it'll always undergo tuning and experimentation. Even so, if it doesn't work, we'll know and we'll fix it.

by prog 16y ago

chromatic 16y ago

I am not sure if Perl 6 has TCO. It does. I would be a little bit concerned about using Perl 6 (rakudo) in any sort of production system before say 2013 or so considering that Parrot has just started to add some critical pieces[1] like JIT and threads. Why? Do you use Python or Ruby or PHP now?

prog 16y ago
> Why? Do you use Python or Ruby or PHP now? Don't get me wrong. I like Parrot. Its just that IMO complex pieces like JIT, threads and GC take some time to stabilize. So while I am all for Perl 6 being on Parrot and Parrot seems to be quite a feature rich VM I would want to see it used in the field for at least a year before I use it for a critical application. For the same reason, I would probably pick up the JIT/unladen-swallow version of CPython (whenever it comes out) only about a year or so of being out. At the moment I use Python quite a bit and have started to use Ruby sometimes. No PHP. Perl 6 and Parrot appeal to me because of their feature set. As for the syntax, I prefer Python syntax much more than Perl 5/6 but thats subjective. I would very much want to try out Perl 6 as it brings a lot of good stuff to the table, I think syntax would be a small price to pay for those features.
- chromatic 16y ago
  You don't have to use concurrency or JIT in Rakudo Perl 6 now. These systems do take a while to stabilize, but they're not requirements for any Perl 6 applications. As for the GC, it'll always undergo tuning and experimentation. Even so, if it doesn't work, we'll know and we'll fix it.