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As others have pointed out, if the nation state you live in does not have a secure hold on its territory, then you can either lose some of your freedom to consc

As others have pointed out, if the nation state you live in does not have a secure hold on its territory, then you can either lose some of your freedom to conscription, or lose a whole lot more in foreign occupation.

mynameishere 10y ago
So, will the new Swedish conscripts be securing any territory?
- ocschwar 10y ago
  What do you think they'll be doing?>
  - fwn 10y ago
    If it's like it was in Germany they are probably drinking and messing things up. Which is reasonable, given someone disrupts your life and gives you a force hourly pay that borders satire.
entropyneur 10y ago
> lose a whole lot more in foreign occupation I don't think that's the case in modern times. Unless you believe Russia (that's what we are talking about here, right?) would enslave swedes or subject them to genocide this argument doesn't work.
- ocschwar 10y ago
  Dude, you don't have to be enslaved outright for your life under military occupation to suck.
  - entropyneur 10y ago
    I am not saying my life wouldn't suck under occupation, but rather that it wouldn't suck "a whole lot more" than under conscription at war time. In fact I'd argue it would suck quite a bit less (and I'd have a lot more chances to have a life at all).
- fjdlwlv 10y ago
  The modern leader of Russia was an active member of the government of "pre-modern" Russia that slaughtered millions of its own citizens.