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They're allowed to ask a US Citizen their religion? Isn't that a protected class?

by mkaziz 10y ago

Someone1234 10y ago
Yes they are. I don't follow what protected classes have to do with this. Class protections stop someone from being denied employment, denied services, or discriminated against. It doesn't make it some kind of secret, or "don't ask, don't tell." CPS have been given the power to investigate US Citizens for other criminal infractions (like smuggling, identity theft, and terrorism) so they can ask invasive questions and refer it to other law enforcement.
- mkaziz 10y ago
  If they're asking for your religion for the purposes of deciding whether to let you into the country or not, or detain your or not, doesn't that open the door to being discriminated against /for your religion/?
  - Someone1234 10y ago
    "Opening the door" to something bad happen isn't an actual argument. Detaining someone could "open the door" to violent beatings, talking to someone could "open the door" to threatening them, but until those beatings, threats, or actual discrimination occur it isn't considered illegal.
    - saalweachter 10y ago
      I think a better question is "why would they ask you your religion if they didn't mean to deny you entry to the country on the basis of it?". You can detain someone for many reasons, some of them legitimate, some of them illegitimate. What is the other reason to ask someone their religion at the border?
      - Someone1234 10y ago
        > What is the other reason to ask someone their religion at the border? To determine their eligibility to enter. Much like figuring out political views, it can open up avenues of discussion which may flag problems.
        saalweachter 10y ago
        I've got to ask, it's really bugging me. Are you OK with prohibiting entry on the basis with religion, or do you really not see how asking someone their religion to determine their eligibility to enter is prohibiting their entry on the basis of their religion?

They're allowed to ask a US Citizen their religion? Isn't that a protected class?

by mkaziz 10y ago

They're allowed to ask a US Citizen their religion? Isn't that a protected class?

Yes they are. I don't follow what protected classes have to do with this. Class protections stop someone from being denied employment, denied services, or discriminated against. It doesn't make it some kind of secret, or "don't ask, don't tell." CPS have been given the power to investigate US Citizens for other criminal infractions (like smuggling, identity theft, and terrorism) so they can ask invasive questions and refer it to other law enforcement.

mkaziz 10y ago
If they're asking for your religion for the purposes of deciding whether to let you into the country or not, or detain your or not, doesn't that open the door to being discriminated against /for your religion/?
- Someone1234 10y ago
  "Opening the door" to something bad happen isn't an actual argument. Detaining someone could "open the door" to violent beatings, talking to someone could "open the door" to threatening them, but until those beatings, threats, or actual discrimination occur it isn't considered illegal.
  - saalweachter 10y ago
    I think a better question is "why would they ask you your religion if they didn't mean to deny you entry to the country on the basis of it?". You can detain someone for many reasons, some of them legitimate, some of them illegitimate. What is the other reason to ask someone their religion at the border?
    - Someone1234 10y ago
      > What is the other reason to ask someone their religion at the border? To determine their eligibility to enter. Much like figuring out political views, it can open up avenues of discussion which may flag problems.
      - saalweachter 10y ago
        I've got to ask, it's really bugging me. Are you OK with prohibiting entry on the basis with religion, or do you really not see how asking someone their religion to determine their eligibility to enter is prohibiting their entry on the basis of their religion?