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> The XML thing is the dumbest thing. Developers write hundreds of lines of XML all the time... its called HTML As if developers like HTML any better. I agree
by gnaritas 10y ago
> The XML thing is the dumbest thing. Developers write hundreds of lines of XML all the time... its called HTML
As if developers like HTML any better. I agree with you about XML being useful because it's easy to parse and the XML hate is overhyped, but that's not what he's saying, he's complaining about configuration hell that seems intrinsic to the Java ecosystem as compared to something like Rails which relies far more on convention than configuration. That's a cultural problem, not a language problem.
- agentgt 10y agoThere are pros and cons to both ways (aka convention over configuration). That is hiding configuration complexity often get fixed with even more internal complexity except now it is hidden. With hiding configuration your ramp up time decreases but your overall understanding of how the library/framework may decrease. To offer the advantages of both requires even more complexity. Which is actually what happened with Spring Boot. It is the Ruby on Rails of Java now and it is far more complex internally than the olden days of Spring 2.0 explicit XML. At times I miss the old school Spring XML way. There used to be only like 4 tags (bean, property and include).