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I don't think one game is enough to save the Switch, but maybe this will get enough systems out there to get the ball rolling. I'm sure some people will pick up

by vlunkr 10y ago

I don't think one game is enough to save the Switch, but maybe this will get enough systems out there to get the ball rolling. I'm sure some people will pick up the Wii U version if they already have one, but I can't imagine buying a console that has been basically declared dead for one game now. EDIT: I'm saying the Wii U is dead, not the switch. IIRC production has stopped, and there are few games still coming to it. EDIT: I should be more clear. "Save the switch" isn't the right way to say it since, as other are pointing at, it hasn't launched yet. It's difficult to make a successful console, it's sort of a chicken and egg problem, you need to have successful games to attract more successful games. The Wii U had some hits, but they were too few and too late. Coming out of the gate with this is great for Nintendo.

Kroniker 10y ago
"Declared dead"? Maybe we've just seen different bubbles, but I've seen nothing but excitement for the switch. They have something like 100 titles from 75 different dev studios lined up for the first year. Obviously the Wii U died on the vine, but that was due to some terrible limitations and lack of 3rd party support, or so I am lead to believe. What makes you think the switch needs saving? It isn't even out yet...
- coldpie 10y ago
  I think they meant no one will be buying a Wii U for Zelda, not the Switch.
- kimolas 10y ago
  It sounds like they're referring to the Wii U; they're suggesting (correctly, arguably) that the Wii U is essentially dead now, and that no one will buy the Wii U just for Zelda. If anything, people will instead buy the Switch, hence their point about Zelda "saving the Switch" (although from what, I'm not sure, since it does have over a hundred games confirmed).
  - slantyyz 10y ago
    >> no one will buy the Wii U just for Zelda. If people are willing to buy a Switch just for Zelda, I'm sure people who don't have enough money for a Switch would be willing to buy a used or refurb Wii U on the cheap to be able to play Zelda.
    - photojosh 10y ago
      New console release is a great opportunity to pick up the old one plus a ton of games on the über-cheap. I've been waiting for the Switch release for that reason, and now I get to play Zelda now instead of when the Switch 2 comes out. ;)
ihuman 10y ago
> save the Switch From what? It isn't even out yet. How can something need saving if its not for sale is most of the world?
- coldpie 10y ago
  People don't have a lot of faith in Nintendo at the moment after the Wii U flopped. The Switch has a very anemic opening lineup, and it's not clear the hardware innovations are going to be enough to pull people back into the Nintendo ecosystem. It's going to be an uphill battle.
  - y_u_no_rust 10y ago
    lol yeah according to preteens on reddit
Nadya 10y ago
There will also be a sizable number of people who pick it up for Splatoon 2, Stardew Valley (for people who miss the old Harvest Moon games), Fire Emblem (2018), and Mario Kart (April 28th). Each of those has a large, dedicated fanbase. Although Stardew Valley may live on mostly PC-only due to the ability to mod the game. If you're not a fan of Zelda or any of the above games - most of the other upcoming games aren't exclusives and you're probably better off getting the PS4/Xbox versions of the games (most seem to be PS4/Wii-U). Unless you see a 3rd-party exclusive that catches your eye. I bought a Wii-u and played a whopping 2 (tomorrow will be 3) different games on it. I won't be buying a Switch since the Wii-u was such a disappointment, and I wasn't even expecting much to begin with. If the Wii-u can prove itself with better 3rd-party support and exclusive titles worth picking up, I'll do so. But I also own an PS4 and One.
- slantyyz 10y ago
  >> Although Stardew Valley may live on mostly PC-only due to the ability to mod the game. Stardew Valley fans have been able to play it on a handheld (along with many other PC games) for a few months now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9qHDHzw4ag https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9qHDHzw4ag I've got a GPD Win and it's absolutely no substitute for a Switch if you're a Nintendo fan. If you were looking at the Switch for its portability and for 3rd party and indie games, the GPD Win could be a worthwhile alternative. I got mine to play Steam games, but some gpd users have reported getting decent frame rates with emulators like Dolphin, PPSSPP and other emulators.
  - Nadya 10y ago
    I've somehow managed to not hear about this at all, so thanks for the news. Although I wasn't focused at all at handheld/portability. Just mentioning the Harvest Moon/Stardew Valley fanbase (and the huge overlap between the two). My argument was that Nintendo survives almost entirely off hyper-loyal fanbases for their exclusive titles. Be it Mario, Pokémon, Zelda, Metroid, Fire Emblem, etc. Third party games exist but aren't the reason you buy Nintendo. I bought a PS4 for my fix of JRPGs and I have an Xbox One for any games that lack a PC port. My argument for Nintendo's IP titles being their biggest selling point is largely backed by game sales. Those are all the best-sellers, which doesn't hold true for other consoles where cross-platforms make up a good chunk of the Top20 games.
slantyyz 10y ago
I'm genuinely interested in how the sales numbers are going to go for the Switch. A fair number of the Nintendo first party titles are going to be system-sellers, especially for Nintendo fans with pent up demand. Once the dust settles, however, I'm curious if the sales numbers can show sustained growth after the Zelda honeymoon period, since most of the Nintendo fans by then would have picked up a Switch.
- jclardy 10y ago
  I don't think we can really judge by the sales after launch, the real test will be holiday 2017 when it is competing with PS4 and XB1 (scorpio?) for holiday sales. I think Nintendo's biggest problem right now is pricing. $300 isn't bad, but that gets you nothing - the console can literally do nothing out of the box (Versus a PS4/XB1 which are media machines, at least.) The $50 for 1-2 switch is their biggest failure of this launch, hopefully their plan is to pack it in the box later in the year and are just using it as a cash grab right now.
  - slantyyz 10y ago
    >> the real test will be holiday 2017 I agree. I think by that point, all the die hard Nintendo fans will likely have picked up a Switch, and then most of the buyers will be "normals", and it's interesting to see what they would choose.
excalibur 10y ago
I'm planning to buy the Wii U version. I would keep on buying games for the system if Nintendo would keep making them. It still is perfectly capable hardware for a living room (assuming 4K isn't a priority for you), and has finally amassed a respectable catalog.
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by vlunkr 10y ago

Kroniker 10y ago

"Declared dead"? Maybe we've just seen different bubbles, but I've seen nothing but excitement for the switch. They have something like 100 titles from 75 different dev studios lined up for the first year. Obviously the Wii U died on the vine, but that was due to some terrible limitations and lack of 3rd party support, or so I am lead to believe. What makes you think the switch needs saving? It isn't even out yet...

coldpie 10y ago
I think they meant no one will be buying a Wii U for Zelda, not the Switch.
kimolas 10y ago
It sounds like they're referring to the Wii U; they're suggesting (correctly, arguably) that the Wii U is essentially dead now, and that no one will buy the Wii U just for Zelda. If anything, people will instead buy the Switch, hence their point about Zelda "saving the Switch" (although from what, I'm not sure, since it does have over a hundred games confirmed).
- slantyyz 10y ago
  >> no one will buy the Wii U just for Zelda. If people are willing to buy a Switch just for Zelda, I'm sure people who don't have enough money for a Switch would be willing to buy a used or refurb Wii U on the cheap to be able to play Zelda.
  - photojosh 10y ago
    New console release is a great opportunity to pick up the old one plus a ton of games on the über-cheap. I've been waiting for the Switch release for that reason, and now I get to play Zelda now instead of when the Switch 2 comes out. ;)

ihuman 10y ago

> save the Switch From what? It isn't even out yet. How can something need saving if its not for sale is most of the world?

coldpie 10y ago
People don't have a lot of faith in Nintendo at the moment after the Wii U flopped. The Switch has a very anemic opening lineup, and it's not clear the hardware innovations are going to be enough to pull people back into the Nintendo ecosystem. It's going to be an uphill battle.
- y_u_no_rust 10y ago
  lol yeah according to preteens on reddit

Nadya 10y ago

There will also be a sizable number of people who pick it up for Splatoon 2, Stardew Valley (for people who miss the old Harvest Moon games), Fire Emblem (2018), and Mario Kart (April 28th). Each of those has a large, dedicated fanbase. Although Stardew Valley may live on mostly PC-only due to the ability to mod the game. If you're not a fan of Zelda or any of the above games - most of the other upcoming games aren't exclusives and you're probably better off getting the PS4/Xbox versions of the games (most seem to be PS4/Wii-U). Unless you see a 3rd-party exclusive that catches your eye. I bought a Wii-u and played a whopping 2 (tomorrow will be 3) different games on it. I won't be buying a Switch since the Wii-u was such a disappointment, and I wasn't even expecting much to begin with. If the Wii-u can prove itself with better 3rd-party support and exclusive titles worth picking up, I'll do so. But I also own an PS4 and One.

slantyyz 10y ago
>> Although Stardew Valley may live on mostly PC-only due to the ability to mod the game. Stardew Valley fans have been able to play it on a handheld (along with many other PC games) for a few months now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9qHDHzw4ag https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9qHDHzw4ag I've got a GPD Win and it's absolutely no substitute for a Switch if you're a Nintendo fan. If you were looking at the Switch for its portability and for 3rd party and indie games, the GPD Win could be a worthwhile alternative. I got mine to play Steam games, but some gpd users have reported getting decent frame rates with emulators like Dolphin, PPSSPP and other emulators.
- Nadya 10y ago
  I've somehow managed to not hear about this at all, so thanks for the news. Although I wasn't focused at all at handheld/portability. Just mentioning the Harvest Moon/Stardew Valley fanbase (and the huge overlap between the two). My argument was that Nintendo survives almost entirely off hyper-loyal fanbases for their exclusive titles. Be it Mario, Pokémon, Zelda, Metroid, Fire Emblem, etc. Third party games exist but aren't the reason you buy Nintendo. I bought a PS4 for my fix of JRPGs and I have an Xbox One for any games that lack a PC port. My argument for Nintendo's IP titles being their biggest selling point is largely backed by game sales. Those are all the best-sellers, which doesn't hold true for other consoles where cross-platforms make up a good chunk of the Top20 games.

slantyyz 10y ago

I'm genuinely interested in how the sales numbers are going to go for the Switch. A fair number of the Nintendo first party titles are going to be system-sellers, especially for Nintendo fans with pent up demand. Once the dust settles, however, I'm curious if the sales numbers can show sustained growth after the Zelda honeymoon period, since most of the Nintendo fans by then would have picked up a Switch.

jclardy 10y ago
I don't think we can really judge by the sales after launch, the real test will be holiday 2017 when it is competing with PS4 and XB1 (scorpio?) for holiday sales. I think Nintendo's biggest problem right now is pricing. $300 isn't bad, but that gets you nothing - the console can literally do nothing out of the box (Versus a PS4/XB1 which are media machines, at least.) The $50 for 1-2 switch is their biggest failure of this launch, hopefully their plan is to pack it in the box later in the year and are just using it as a cash grab right now.
- slantyyz 10y ago
  >> the real test will be holiday 2017 I agree. I think by that point, all the die hard Nintendo fans will likely have picked up a Switch, and then most of the buyers will be "normals", and it's interesting to see what they would choose.

excalibur 10y ago

I'm planning to buy the Wii U version. I would keep on buying games for the system if Nintendo would keep making them. It still is perfectly capable hardware for a living room (assuming 4K isn't a priority for you), and has finally amassed a respectable catalog.

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