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"If you work for bigcorp x" being the operative term here. If you work in a small business, you know the owner personally, and you know this would be appreciat

by amalcon 16y ago

"If you work for bigcorp x" being the operative term here. If you work in a small business, you know the owner personally, and you know this would be appreciated, knock yourself out. That's a lot of "if's", so the post could've used a lot more context, but in a certain situation I can see doing this.

jacquesm 16y ago
Even in a smaller corporation I'd be very careful. I try to put myself in the place of the boss there and to have some sysadmin walk up to me and say hey Jacques, I'm leaving today, here is the guy that I trained while you weren't looking, he already has all the passwords and would very much like my job, I can promise you I'd be less than thrilled about it. There are two things wrong with it, it presumes that it is his right to make these decisions and presents his boss with an impossible situation, either accept and you might have continuity, or don't accept and have an immediate problem. Master salesmanship to get away with it but not everybody is quite as timid as his boss was there. I can't find a better term than blackmail, but that isn't quite it because he doesn't expect any payout, maybe someone else has a better term for this, but something really isn't right here. That decision was simply not his to make.
- alexandros 16y ago
  I call it 'the road to hell is paved with good intentions'. Some of the worst behaviours I have seen have been from people who believed they were being helpful or protective of someone.
- amalcon 16y ago
  This is why all of those conditions need to be true. If you know that your employer will appreciate you doing this, then why not? Of course, it's highly unlikely that you know this to a reasonable certainty unless you ask.
  - danieldon 16y ago
    Exactly, you don't know unless you ask. Don't assume, ask.
icey 16y ago
Do you really want to trust the opinion of someone who has decided you aren't that great to work for anymore? Derek is a special case, but generally speaking that's not a gamble I'd want to make.
- amalcon 16y ago
  Not everyone leaves because they "decide you aren't that great to work for anymore." While it is the overwhelmingly most common reason, something like 20% of departures (that statistic is from memory, so don't take it too seriously) are for reasons that have nothing to do with the employer. Changing priorities, physical moves, interesting opportunities elsewhere, and starting one's own business all play a part.

by amalcon 16y ago

jacquesm 16y ago

Even in a smaller corporation I'd be very careful. I try to put myself in the place of the boss there and to have some sysadmin walk up to me and say hey Jacques, I'm leaving today, here is the guy that I trained while you weren't looking, he already has all the passwords and would very much like my job, I can promise you I'd be less than thrilled about it. There are two things wrong with it, it presumes that it is his right to make these decisions and presents his boss with an impossible situation, either accept and you might have continuity, or don't accept and have an immediate problem. Master salesmanship to get away with it but not everybody is quite as timid as his boss was there. I can't find a better term than blackmail, but that isn't quite it because he doesn't expect any payout, maybe someone else has a better term for this, but something really isn't right here. That decision was simply not his to make.

alexandros 16y ago
I call it 'the road to hell is paved with good intentions'. Some of the worst behaviours I have seen have been from people who believed they were being helpful or protective of someone.
amalcon 16y ago
This is why all of those conditions need to be true. If you know that your employer will appreciate you doing this, then why not? Of course, it's highly unlikely that you know this to a reasonable certainty unless you ask.
- danieldon 16y ago
  Exactly, you don't know unless you ask. Don't assume, ask.

icey 16y ago

Do you really want to trust the opinion of someone who has decided you aren't that great to work for anymore? Derek is a special case, but generally speaking that's not a gamble I'd want to make.

amalcon 16y ago
Not everyone leaves because they "decide you aren't that great to work for anymore." While it is the overwhelmingly most common reason, something like 20% of departures (that statistic is from memory, so don't take it too seriously) are for reasons that have nothing to do with the employer. Changing priorities, physical moves, interesting opportunities elsewhere, and starting one's own business all play a part.