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They're coming in at half the price of equivalent Intel chips. They don't need to win, necessarily (which I didn't think was going to happen), they need to be c

They're coming in at half the price of equivalent Intel chips. They don't need to win, necessarily (which I didn't think was going to happen), they need to be competitive for a lot less money. EDIT, in response to the other edit: sorry about that, I wasn't sure which comparison you were making. Still, the difference is slim enough that if I were in the market, I'd go with this one just to put the heat on Intel.

Vanayad 10y ago
You do have to consider that this is an 8 core, and more and more applications are being developed with this in mind. Whoever still thinks that Single threaded performance is the most important, lives in the past.
- anthonybsd 10y ago
  Consumer applications? Doubt it. Not a whole lot of consumer-oriented applications parallelize that well to be honest.
  - qaq 10y ago
    look at how many threads your Chrome is running
    - yborg 10y ago
      All but one set (for the active tab) of which are probably idle or effectively so most of the time.
    - whyever 10y ago
      Only Servo parallelizes single-page rendering as far as I know.
      - anentropic 10y ago
        but they're moving in that direction
    - MLR 10y ago
      This review has a CPU web test section, you can see performance is mostly a function of IPC and clock speed.
  - deleted 10y ago
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  - caf 10y ago
    Even crusty old Microsoft Excel parallelises worksheet recalculation.
    - smitherfield 10y ago
      Sure, but Excel is presumably one of the most optimized (in terms of the amount of money and brainpower devoted to optimizing it) applications in existence.
      - caf 10y ago
        That's not the feeling you get when you use it, it seems more like the underlying engine hasn't really changed a great deal in 20 years.
        smitherfield 10y ago
        That's the price of backward compatibility. But I think it's a bit of a "Seinfeld is unfunny"[1] situation; if Microsoft decided to save on the nine-figure budget and outsource Excel development to, say, your favorite purveyor of antivirus software, you'd notice real fast. [1] http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SeinfeldIsUnfunny http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SeinfeldIsUnfunny (apologies for the TVTropes link at night!)
  - anentropic 10y ago
    don't you run more than one of them at a time though?
- Geee 10y ago
  That's not true. 2 weak horses != 1 strong horse. 1 strong horse can do the work of 2 weak horses, but not the other way around. A single core can run multiple threads, but multiple cores can't work together on a single-thread task.
  - timlin 10y ago
    Actually, 2 weak horses could probably equal 1 strong horse. http://timmaurer.com/2012/01/16/horse-sense/ http://timmaurer.com/2012/01/16/horse-sense/ https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-two-horses-pulling-together-can-pull-more-than-the-sum-of-the-two-horses-pulling-separately https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-two-horses-pulling-tog...
RUG3Y 10y ago
I'm definitely going to be building a PC with one of these CPUs some time this year. I've been holding off on an upgrade because I couldn't justify the cost. This is a lot more reasonable.

Vanayad 10y ago

You do have to consider that this is an 8 core, and more and more applications are being developed with this in mind. Whoever still thinks that Single threaded performance is the most important, lives in the past.

anthonybsd 10y ago
Consumer applications? Doubt it. Not a whole lot of consumer-oriented applications parallelize that well to be honest.
- qaq 10y ago
  look at how many threads your Chrome is running
  - yborg 10y ago
    All but one set (for the active tab) of which are probably idle or effectively so most of the time.
  - whyever 10y ago
    Only Servo parallelizes single-page rendering as far as I know.
    - anentropic 10y ago
      but they're moving in that direction
  - MLR 10y ago
    This review has a CPU web test section, you can see performance is mostly a function of IPC and clock speed.
- deleted 10y ago
  [deleted]
- caf 10y ago
  Even crusty old Microsoft Excel parallelises worksheet recalculation.
  - smitherfield 10y ago
    Sure, but Excel is presumably one of the most optimized (in terms of the amount of money and brainpower devoted to optimizing it) applications in existence.
    - caf 10y ago
      That's not the feeling you get when you use it, it seems more like the underlying engine hasn't really changed a great deal in 20 years.
      - smitherfield 10y ago
        That's the price of backward compatibility. But I think it's a bit of a "Seinfeld is unfunny"[1] situation; if Microsoft decided to save on the nine-figure budget and outsource Excel development to, say, your favorite purveyor of antivirus software, you'd notice real fast. [1] http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SeinfeldIsUnfunny http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SeinfeldIsUnfunny (apologies for the TVTropes link at night!)
- anentropic 10y ago
  don't you run more than one of them at a time though?
Geee 10y ago
That's not true. 2 weak horses != 1 strong horse. 1 strong horse can do the work of 2 weak horses, but not the other way around. A single core can run multiple threads, but multiple cores can't work together on a single-thread task.
- timlin 10y ago
  Actually, 2 weak horses could probably equal 1 strong horse. http://timmaurer.com/2012/01/16/horse-sense/ http://timmaurer.com/2012/01/16/horse-sense/ https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-two-horses-pulling-together-can-pull-more-than-the-sum-of-the-two-horses-pulling-separately https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-two-horses-pulling-tog...

RUG3Y 10y ago

I'm definitely going to be building a PC with one of these CPUs some time this year. I've been holding off on an upgrade because I couldn't justify the cost. This is a lot more reasonable.