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In Japan they have a really logic system where each bike just has a registration number. When you buy a bike they can easily change the owner through some paper

In Japan they have a really logic system where each bike just has a registration number. When you buy a bike they can easily change the owner through some paperwork (there's a lot of paperwork in general in Japan but it's also really efficient). It's really just the same as a motorbike or car, just it's not for ID from far away so they are small stickers instead.

revelation 10y ago
They are chop shops presumably because they chop the bike up into its constituent parts, of which only really the frame will have any sort of marking or serial number.
- franciscop 10y ago
  Yes but in this way, until it is all chop up it's easy to differentiate a stolen bike from a non-stolen bike. If the police just sees a bunch of parts then it's the same as now, but if they see someone chopping a bike they could consult the registration and inmediately check if the bike is stolen or not. I think one of the most important parts for organized stolen bikes is the frame while other parts are more for small-time things (correct me if I'm wrong).
mschuetz 10y ago
We have/had something similar in my city. It does nothing to prevent bike theft or getting your stolen bike back.
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- 8draco8 10y ago
  I'm just assuming here but from what you are saying, your city is an exception, and rest of the country doesn't have that law so I can come to your city from some country side with my bike and lack of registration number on my bike wouldn't be surprise to any one. It would work only if it would be mandatory that every bike in the country have to have registered owner (like cars and motorbikes) so you would never expect buying a bike without registration papers and police could easily check if bike is registered for you or not.
  - mschuetz 10y ago
    It's a small european country and easy to get the bike out of it. Unless absolutely every country adopts this system, it will remain useless.
carsongross 10y ago
Japan also has the advantage of being populated with Japanese, so distinguishing between cause and effect might be difficult.

revelation 10y ago

They are chop shops presumably because they chop the bike up into its constituent parts, of which only really the frame will have any sort of marking or serial number.

franciscop 10y ago
Yes but in this way, until it is all chop up it's easy to differentiate a stolen bike from a non-stolen bike. If the police just sees a bunch of parts then it's the same as now, but if they see someone chopping a bike they could consult the registration and inmediately check if the bike is stolen or not. I think one of the most important parts for organized stolen bikes is the frame while other parts are more for small-time things (correct me if I'm wrong).

mschuetz 10y ago

We have/had something similar in my city. It does nothing to prevent bike theft or getting your stolen bike back.

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8draco8 10y ago
I'm just assuming here but from what you are saying, your city is an exception, and rest of the country doesn't have that law so I can come to your city from some country side with my bike and lack of registration number on my bike wouldn't be surprise to any one. It would work only if it would be mandatory that every bike in the country have to have registered owner (like cars and motorbikes) so you would never expect buying a bike without registration papers and police could easily check if bike is registered for you or not.
- mschuetz 10y ago
  It's a small european country and easy to get the bike out of it. Unless absolutely every country adopts this system, it will remain useless.

carsongross 10y ago

Japan also has the advantage of being populated with Japanese, so distinguishing between cause and effect might be difficult.