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The New York and Los Angeles metropolitan areas are larger in area than the London metropolitan area The NY metro area is much more populous than London, and t

The New York and Los Angeles metropolitan areas are larger in area than the London metropolitan area The NY metro area is much more populous than London, and the LA metro area is very slightly less populous.

foldr 10y ago
>The NY metro area is much more populous than London, and the LA metro area is very slightly le Well, 14 million vs 20 million is not such a big difference. And the definition of metropolitan areas is somewhat arbitrary in any case.
- rys 10y ago
  There are numerous entire countries that have populations smaller than that 42% difference.
  - foldr 10y ago
    Well, sure, but it's less than a 2x difference relatively speaking, and it doesn't really have big implications for public transport.
lqdc13 10y ago
NYC transportation sucks even within areas where the population is very dense. It takes 2 hours to get from Bronx to Coney Island on subway. Plus there are almost daily service disruptions of all kinds. San Francisco's Bart is hated by almost everyone but it is much faster[1]. In fact, I have never taken a slower subway than NYC subway. [1] https://flic.kr/p/7LhwPz https://flic.kr/p/7LhwPz
- MaxfordAndSons 10y ago
  > It takes 2 hours to get from Bronx to Coney Island on subway That's a bizarre example. Of course it takes a long time to go from one corner of the city to the other. No reasonable person would be making that commute regularly.
  - lqdc13 10y ago
    The point is that the subway is slow and unreliable unless you are commuting within Manhattan for 4 stops. Lots of people work in Manhattan and commute from Brooklyn. It's a 1.5 hr train ride to Columbus Circle + 0-60 minute random slowdown where you may have to take the train in the opposite direction for a bunch of stops. Sometimes they actually tell you to get off the train, take a shuttle bus and get back on the train. Other times the train stops 8 subway stops from where you have to be with an inaudible message from the conductor. As a result, you are stuck the middle of nowhere at 8 PM on a Saturday. Only option is to take a local bus (that tends to be much more reliable) or Uber. This kind of treatment is unheard of in any European country including Russia. It could have been a 45 + 0-5 variation minute ride if trains ran as fast and reliably as they do in almost every other city.

foldr 10y ago

>The NY metro area is much more populous than London, and the LA metro area is very slightly le Well, 14 million vs 20 million is not such a big difference. And the definition of metropolitan areas is somewhat arbitrary in any case.

rys 10y ago
There are numerous entire countries that have populations smaller than that 42% difference.
- foldr 10y ago
  Well, sure, but it's less than a 2x difference relatively speaking, and it doesn't really have big implications for public transport.

lqdc13 10y ago

NYC transportation sucks even within areas where the population is very dense. It takes 2 hours to get from Bronx to Coney Island on subway. Plus there are almost daily service disruptions of all kinds. San Francisco's Bart is hated by almost everyone but it is much faster[1]. In fact, I have never taken a slower subway than NYC subway. [1] https://flic.kr/p/7LhwPz https://flic.kr/p/7LhwPz

MaxfordAndSons 10y ago
> It takes 2 hours to get from Bronx to Coney Island on subway That's a bizarre example. Of course it takes a long time to go from one corner of the city to the other. No reasonable person would be making that commute regularly.
- lqdc13 10y ago
  The point is that the subway is slow and unreliable unless you are commuting within Manhattan for 4 stops. Lots of people work in Manhattan and commute from Brooklyn. It's a 1.5 hr train ride to Columbus Circle + 0-60 minute random slowdown where you may have to take the train in the opposite direction for a bunch of stops. Sometimes they actually tell you to get off the train, take a shuttle bus and get back on the train. Other times the train stops 8 subway stops from where you have to be with an inaudible message from the conductor. As a result, you are stuck the middle of nowhere at 8 PM on a Saturday. Only option is to take a local bus (that tends to be much more reliable) or Uber. This kind of treatment is unheard of in any European country including Russia. It could have been a 45 + 0-5 variation minute ride if trains ran as fast and reliably as they do in almost every other city.