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Weaker people being violently assaulted by stronger people is good in your book?

by jimmyk 10y ago

mozumder 10y ago
How else would they toughen up? Never trust the sanity of anyone that can't go through life without a gun.
- jimmyk 10y ago
  Never trust the sanity of anyone that can't go through life without a gun. Your heuristic works in at least one case: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/2/nra-lashes-michael-bloomberg-ultimate-hypocrite/ http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/2/nra-lashes-mi... dinging him as the “ultimate hypocrite” for lobbying against Second Amendment rights for average Americans while maintaining his own personal armed security force.
  - mozumder 10y ago
    Were you under the impression that wealthy people are supposed to follow the same rules as the commoner? Maybe you also believe in the religious just-world theory? And that guns would bring about a homogenous equality to all, instead of forming warring factions?
    - jimmyk 10y ago
      Were you under the impression that wealthy people are supposed to follow the same rules as the commoner? I think that depends on who or what is doing the supposing. I certainly don't expect the wealthy will ever live by the same rules as the commoners, but it would be very interesting if someone like Bloomberg admitted that. Americans are pretty fond of having a legal system that at least nominally holds the wealthy to the same standards as the commoners, and Americans are well armed so punching a giant hole in the facade could get ugly. Either way, I don't quote that to point out his hypocrisy, but to point out that he finds guns to be useful. And that guns would bring about a homogenous equality to all, instead of forming warring factions? History is not my best subject, but I think warring factions predate guns by quite some time. No, guns will not bring about equality, but they do seem to move the scale in that direction. Controlling an armed group of people seems at least to require you to pay greater respect to their wishes.
      - millzlane 10y ago
        One man with a gun can control 100 without one. -Vladimir Lenin
- 15155 10y ago
  Plenty of people from all walks of life successfully (and lawfully) defend themselves with firearms. Why do you believe an 80 year old widow should need to "toughen up" to defend herself from a group of much younger, more able home invaders (or other assailants)?
  - mozumder 10y ago
    So she doesn't kill innocent people?

Weaker people being violently assaulted by stronger people is good in your book?

by jimmyk 10y ago

Weaker people being violently assaulted by stronger people is good in your book?

mozumder 10y ago

How else would they toughen up? Never trust the sanity of anyone that can't go through life without a gun.

jimmyk 10y ago
Never trust the sanity of anyone that can't go through life without a gun. Your heuristic works in at least one case: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/2/nra-lashes-michael-bloomberg-ultimate-hypocrite/ http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/2/nra-lashes-mi... dinging him as the “ultimate hypocrite” for lobbying against Second Amendment rights for average Americans while maintaining his own personal armed security force.
- mozumder 10y ago
  Were you under the impression that wealthy people are supposed to follow the same rules as the commoner? Maybe you also believe in the religious just-world theory? And that guns would bring about a homogenous equality to all, instead of forming warring factions?
  - jimmyk 10y ago
    Were you under the impression that wealthy people are supposed to follow the same rules as the commoner? I think that depends on who or what is doing the supposing. I certainly don't expect the wealthy will ever live by the same rules as the commoners, but it would be very interesting if someone like Bloomberg admitted that. Americans are pretty fond of having a legal system that at least nominally holds the wealthy to the same standards as the commoners, and Americans are well armed so punching a giant hole in the facade could get ugly. Either way, I don't quote that to point out his hypocrisy, but to point out that he finds guns to be useful. And that guns would bring about a homogenous equality to all, instead of forming warring factions? History is not my best subject, but I think warring factions predate guns by quite some time. No, guns will not bring about equality, but they do seem to move the scale in that direction. Controlling an armed group of people seems at least to require you to pay greater respect to their wishes.
    - millzlane 10y ago
      One man with a gun can control 100 without one. -Vladimir Lenin
15155 10y ago
Plenty of people from all walks of life successfully (and lawfully) defend themselves with firearms. Why do you believe an 80 year old widow should need to "toughen up" to defend herself from a group of much younger, more able home invaders (or other assailants)?
- mozumder 10y ago
  So she doesn't kill innocent people?