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My wife and I moved to NZ (from Russia) 2+ years ago. I work in IT (Software Developer). We live in Auckland. My impressions are: PROS: - very beautiful count
by kovrik 10y ago
My wife and I moved to NZ (from Russia) 2+ years ago.
I work in IT (Software Developer). We live in Auckland.
My impressions are:
PROS:
- very beautiful country. Really, nature here is amazing!
- people are very friendly
- everything is quite simple and small, people know each other. It is more like a village, not a City
- climate is fine (in Auckland). Humidity is high - that is why it feels hot in summer and cold in winter
- no earthquakes (Auckland)
- very safe country
- coffee and beer and foods are amazing!
- it is clean
- lack of stress, slow pace of life
CONS:
- NZ is unreasonably expensive country to live in
- you can't really make money here. All salaries are pretty much the same. You'll get enough for living, but not much more.
- job market is small and weird (hence, limited career opportunities)
- rent is very high. You'll spend 40-60% of your salary on a rent.
- house prices are unreasonably high. It will be very difficult to buy a good house/apartment here
- quality of houses/apartments is very bad. They are tiny, old, ugly. Well, there are some nice houses, but they are far from CBD
- it is far far away from the rest of the world, hence it is expensive to travel from NZ to other countries
- it is boring here. Nothing is going on. About 4-5 good concerts/exhibitions/shows per year and that's it. The only ways to entertain yourself are: food (pubs, cafes, restaurants etc. But choice is very limited) and nature (hiking, camping, surfing, caving etc.)
- almost all cafes and shops close at 4-6pm. Yes, not many places to go after work.
- if you (or your wife) like shopping, then you'll be disappointed. Again, choice is very limited, quality is quite low, prices are unreasonably high.
- IT: it is just my opinion, but I would say that average IT specialist in NZ doesn't know much. I see a lot of IT people here who, for example, don't know how to use Git. Who never heard about Rust. Who never heard about LISP. Who have 8 years of Java experience, but don't know basic Java stuff. And so on. Honestly, this is quite disappointing
- companies don't hire you for your skills. They don't usually ask any technical question during interviews. Most probably they will just check if you are kind, polite, if you smile, if you can sell yourself
- employers here often require mythical 'New Zealand Experience'. Which means that if you've never worked in NZ, then it will be difficult for you to find your first job here (because you don't have NZ experience yet)
- people don't work hard here. They come to work slowly, relax, read news, drink coffee, work a little bit, then have lunch, then work a little bit again. When it's 5pm - they just go home.
- public transport is bad
Overall, NZ is a very very nice country, but it has some REALLY annoying and weird stuff.
If you _don't_ really want to make a Career and Money, just want to relax, want to have no stress and anxiety, if you enjoy nature, then it would be great for you.
If you are more a 'city guy', who wants things to happen all the time around, who wants to make a career, have opportunities, who wants to live in a big modern city, then honestly, I would recommend Australia (Melbourne/Sydney) over New Zealand.
My wife and I are planning to move to Australia in the future.
- TheAlchemist 10y agoThanks for a detailed reply ! I'm a bit surprised about the salary. I've seen than in IT it's pretty limited, but also that some other profession can make a very good living - my wife is a doctor and it looks like it's quite a good place to be for medical professionals. Living costs, yes - that's something I expect. But coming from Paris, I don't think I will be shocked neither... Also, we already have 2 kids and will rather be looking at houses in the suburbs / outside of the main cities, so this should bring the costs down. Again, thanks for great answer !
- kovrik 10y agoYes, doctors get very good money here. But google it, most probably your wife will have to pass exams or something to prove her qualification and work here as a doctor. And NZ is a wonderful country for kids! Also, french community is quite large here!
- TheAlchemist 10y agoActually it's rather easy for doctors with french diploma - just an exam to pass indeed. Rather easy process compared to other countries we considered (Canada, Australia)
- roel_v 10y ago"will rather be looking at houses in the suburbs / outside of the main cities, so this should bring the costs down." No, it doesn't work like that. Have a look at some RE websites and Google Maps. Prices are insane, even in places where you can't reasonably commute to places where there are jobs for educated people. Only places where prices aren't insane is in places people only go to get away from other people. Look, I loved living in NZ in some aspects, but it's not a place for someone with ambition. Even kiwis with ambition leave, even if they don't want really want to.
- TheAlchemist 10y agoThis is something that bothers me indeed. My best case scenario is to create a company in the machine learning field there. The idea is not yet mature enough, so I'm giving myself time for now (we're planning to move in a year or two). As for houses, I've checked and it sure looks expensive, but again - I'm living in Paris area where the prices are insane in my opinion. In the suburbs where I live, it's ~5000e/m2 - with almost 1h commute to work.