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I didn't see he did anything wrong, he was just a cutting through the crap the driver was spewing. The driver was soliciting the CEO when he should be doing his

by Exuma 10y ago

I didn't see he did anything wrong, he was just a cutting through the crap the driver was spewing. The driver was soliciting the CEO when he should be doing his job and driving, and just shut up. As if a Uber driver knows the business so well that he has the right to tell the damn CEO how the innerworkings of Uber pricing work. The driver just (inappropriately) used the opportunity to lambaste the CEO about his problems.

tptacek 10y ago
Uber drivers aren't employees. Uber is a vendor for the driver. In fact, Uber's existence depends on that being the case.
- 16bytes 10y ago
  There is wide disagreement about drivers employment status. There are several localities that have had legal status ruled one way or the other [1][2], but it's not settled enough to be able to claim that uber drivers aren't employees. Uber, on the other hand, certainly would like to classify them as such. [1] https://www.cnet.com/news/uber-uk-court-ruling-drivers-employees-not-contractors/ https://www.cnet.com/news/uber-uk-court-ruling-drivers-emplo... [2] http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/21/11485424/uber-suit-california-Massachusetts-drivers-employee-contractor http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/21/11485424/uber-suit-califor...
blisterpeanuts 10y ago
It seems to me the Uber driver should find a different job if he's not able to make a go of it. What possible benefit to arguing about pricing with the passenger, regardless whether he's the CEO? I admit, I'd be intrigued if I knew my passenger was the Uber CEO -- I might ask some polite questions about the direction of the company and so forth but probably not directly argue with the man regardless of the CEO's people skills or lack thereof :)
- matt4077 10y ago
  > What possible benefit to arguing about pricing with the passenger, regardless whether he's the CEO? How about "getting that CEO so far into a corner, you can rate him one star, shame him publicly, and still get an apology"? That driver, even though he didn't make the best possible argument for his position, has been tremendously influential. And the position of "don't complain, you're free to leave" didn't even make sense in the 19th century when it was used against people complaining about child labor or fire safety.
- davidcbc 10y ago
  Finding a new job is easier said than done for low skill workers.

by Exuma 10y ago

tptacek 10y ago

Uber drivers aren't employees. Uber is a vendor for the driver. In fact, Uber's existence depends on that being the case.

16bytes 10y ago
There is wide disagreement about drivers employment status. There are several localities that have had legal status ruled one way or the other [1][2], but it's not settled enough to be able to claim that uber drivers aren't employees. Uber, on the other hand, certainly would like to classify them as such. [1] https://www.cnet.com/news/uber-uk-court-ruling-drivers-employees-not-contractors/ https://www.cnet.com/news/uber-uk-court-ruling-drivers-emplo... [2] http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/21/11485424/uber-suit-california-Massachusetts-drivers-employee-contractor http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/21/11485424/uber-suit-califor...

blisterpeanuts 10y ago

It seems to me the Uber driver should find a different job if he's not able to make a go of it. What possible benefit to arguing about pricing with the passenger, regardless whether he's the CEO? I admit, I'd be intrigued if I knew my passenger was the Uber CEO -- I might ask some polite questions about the direction of the company and so forth but probably not directly argue with the man regardless of the CEO's people skills or lack thereof :)

matt4077 10y ago
> What possible benefit to arguing about pricing with the passenger, regardless whether he's the CEO? How about "getting that CEO so far into a corner, you can rate him one star, shame him publicly, and still get an apology"? That driver, even though he didn't make the best possible argument for his position, has been tremendously influential. And the position of "don't complain, you're free to leave" didn't even make sense in the 19th century when it was used against people complaining about child labor or fire safety.
davidcbc 10y ago
Finding a new job is easier said than done for low skill workers.